Many Dyncorp LOGCAP IV employees disgusted
I can’t even count the number of complaints I’ve received regarding the pay issues and the working and living conditions for Dyncorp LOGCAP IV employees in Kandahar, Afghanistan. All in all it has to be close to 100% that being an new American expat working for Dyncorp sucks. Many are saying it’s worse than working for KBR. But I’m sure if you’re Scott Mount, Jeff Archie or Conrad Cannon your living conditions are premium. Below is an email from a Dyncorp employee.
Friends,
If you are thinking Dyncorp for your job, let me give you some true blue facts. I know everyone at one time or another has ask, “what have you heard about Dyncorp”, well you are hearing it from the horses mouth.
Dyncorp is not what you expect from a company of this size and reputation. The HR is as bad as it gets. The finance (pay) is a hit and a miss. Some people get paid others are not paid for up to three months. The living conditions are as poor as there is. We start out in a circus tent with 300 people double bunked with 2 foot of space between bunks. Then we are moved to an 8 man tent but they have placed bunks in for 20 people. The top bunks are only 2 inches from the top of the tent and the lights. We are given 3 to 4 foot between bunks and this is our permanent living assignment, even for Supervisors. There are CHU’s(Civilian Housing Unit) with TCN’s (Third Country Nationals) running everything. There is no such thing as a waiting list for CHU’s and nobody can explain why most xpats are in tents. I can see most xpats demobing once they all get their clearances.
The laundry goes this way…you turn your laundry in with an issued bag which holds 2 sets of clothes. It takes 72 hours to receive your laundry back. They wash your clothes without removing the clothes from your bag. If you do not put the soap powder in your bag your clothes are washed with dirty water only. When you receive your clothes back they smell, most have dirt stains on them (which were not there to start with) and they are waded up and wrinkled beyond belief.
The chow is bad, C-Rations are better. The working conditions are bad, I will not go into this. Think the worst and then add more bad things to it and you have the work conditions.
There is no safety or any kind of QAQC around the company.
We all share the bathrooms with the TCN’s. These guys are from all over the world. They are doing their laundry in the showers and sinks. Absolutely disgusting people. There is nobody around to enforce rules or regulations in the camps. It looks and smells like a group of animals just spent 24 hours in the showers. Nasty to say the least.
One of the Transportation Managers (name edited out) here just got busted with drugs and having classified material in his computer. Real class act management. I thought KBR was bad until I came here. I found out some supervisors and managers that KBR fired – are here. It’s hard to get away from idiots.
Stay away from DynCorp Intl.
I know this will guarantee some hate emails but I stand by my opinion there are inherent safety issues with American expats living in close quarters with unvetted TCN’s from SE Asia, India etc. At least Americans get a back ground check and you know there are no convicted felons sleeping in the next bunk. With regards to TCN’s you have no idea who the person is sleeping next to you and then there are health issues. Diseases such hepatitis and tuberculosis are near epidemic conditions in some countries and it’s a well known fact that labor contractors lie about getting these people vetted including medical checks.
Ms Sparky
Thursday, March 29th 2012 at 1:57 am |
Everything you say is correct…I was told I was a “Surge” candidate, it was crucial to get me in country ASAFP, yet I was put up in a hotel in DXB for 25 days, and have had to endure a week of unbelievable conditions here at South Park (Bed Space Issues Abroad, they for sure put the cart before the horse and left a huge bill for the US Tax Payer to pick up…I can’t believe the DCMA and Fire Dept have turned all eyes away from this mess out here and allowed them to exceed headcount capacities in all tents nere or how the bumbling, rude SM and staff have managed to stay employeed here. There is no TB-Med 530 or 577 observation out here… All food mermited out here is not maintained at temperature, items such as pudding are routinely left out from dinner to breakfast, pans are washed out at the pump up hand wash station in non-potable cold water without any bacteria killing solutuon being used…I’m surprised people are not dropping out here.
All US, Tx-KBR employees, I highly recommend reevaluating employment with DI
Saturday, April 7th 2012 at 5:41 pm |
Um did you forget you are in Afghanistan like so many other soldiers risking their lives living in the same conditions as you are. If you dont like it you have the option to go hoe to your comfortable living, soldiers do not have that option. They fight around the clock and get 2 weeks vacation. Most of youare former military and understand the living conditions are not ideal. Stop complaining you make so much more money than soldiers sacrificing so much more than you.
Saturday, April 28th 2012 at 1:57 am |
I didn’t see one comment that had to do with U.S. soldiers; that is neither here nor there. O&M is simply voicing his opinion on Logcap IV, and trying to give a heads up to would be contractors. Although I fully support our soldiers, and wish nothing but their safe return, exactly when did a draft take place? It’s an all volunteer Army cali.
Wednesday, May 16th 2012 at 3:05 am |
Oh my GOSH!!! Are you fucking kidding me??? Volunteer ARMY?? The nerve, first of all Cali is right, stop friggin complaining. That’s all these damn Contractors do, they come out here and friggin complain. I can’t you said that BS about some volunteer Army…we all raised our right hand so that complaining and crying ass people like you will not have to worry about bombed the hell up for the rest of your life. Just like she/he said if you don’t like it get another damn job. Save so of that money up that you BLOW AT THE BOARDWALK on pizza for your fat asses and buy a plane ticket home!!!
Sunday, April 8th 2012 at 5:14 am |
Just a couple of quick points: The food and DFACs at KAF are controlled by NATO so DCMA has no dog in that fight. Thats why the food in the DFACs are so bad! The FOBs have much better food. Also the area your referring to is controlled by the military and not Dyncorp…thats how they get away with how many people they put in there etc… Is it right? no….but there are reasons some of the things are the way they are there.
Wednesday, April 11th 2012 at 10:21 pm |
Anyone know who the Dyne Theater Security Manager is in Afghan? I need an email or phone number from him. I was working with KBR Security and my contract ended. Looking for a job.
Sunday, April 29th 2012 at 10:32 am |
After reading many complaints regarding Dynacorps conditions in Afhganistan regarding sleeping conditions/food I would like to know if there are any fast food places on the bases and is there any PX’s on the base. When was the last time Dynacorp employee went without a paycheck. Has anybody ever contacted the DOD/DCMA about their complaints? Has anything ever been done about it? If the conditions so bad why are people still working there?
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 10:17 pm |
Exactly Eugene!
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 6:44 am |
I presently work for DI and have no real issues. Yes I have to work with SOME incompetent Subcontractors from PPI. There are some hired on by DI (TCN’s). Then there’s the TCN’s that are worth more than what they earn. Speak good English, listens, and can work on there own. YES thees a PX in fact a brand new one on my camp. So far they’ve been keeping it well stocked. We have eight dinning facilities that serve 24/7. My pay works out just fine. I live in a RLB, hard shelter structures. Emotions run kind of high at times, that’s only the military keep pushing us to provide services that’s not part of the contract. We do have to say no at times, although we hate too. I don’t have a vehicle but that’s OK. I lost 25lbs just walking around. No , it’s not like Iraq with wet chu’s. Wit some adjustments you’ll survive. Oh yes we have a KFC and a Pizza Hut. Along with some local markets on post and British,Danish and a Jordon PX plus several civilian stores not LOCAL. And they have food shops and more.
Wednesday, May 16th 2012 at 12:16 pm |
I will be leaving for LOGCAP IV in July from the States and would like to hear more opinions and facts on conditions. Those given above are one extreme or the other and it is hard to know exactly what to expect. I know that it is no rose garden but the opinions seems quite one extreme vs. the other.
Monday, May 21st 2012 at 7:04 pm |
Spouse just returned. Lived in tent. 7 x7 ft. no walls in tent. Only can hang cotton sheets or blankets for privacy. Army rules. Worst when first get there until get permanent assignment. Pay is good, but save for taxes in case have to come home.
Monday, April 30th 2012 at 3:08 pm |
anyone with recruiter info pls cemail me. Jamessouth@hotmail.com. 3 yrs in iraq as ROWPU/ water treatment. also have class a cdl w/ haz tanker and pass endorsement. thanks and god bless
Tuesday, May 1st 2012 at 7:26 pm |
i m working in dyn corp but company good management not good
Monday, May 21st 2012 at 7:00 pm |
Considering nursing job with Dyncorp. Anyone have any heads ups on conditions for women in medicine over there? My spouse worked for DI and reported he lived in tent and was squeezed down to 7 x 7 ft. Army was culprit, not Dyncorp. He doesn’t think I’d have that problem, ie. female employee in medical field. Spouse pay was good and always paid on time.
Tuesday, May 22nd 2012 at 10:25 pm |
Petty
Thats not entirely a true statement. Dynacorp likes to say the army is to blame yet they have the contractual responsibility to provide a certain amount of living space for its employees. However per requirements the living space at min should be 50 sq ft. It also depends on where you end up living as to the overall conditions etc. some FOBs are just nicer than others. I cant offer any feedback as far as the overall conditions for women or the medical field.
Wednesday, May 23rd 2012 at 8:59 am |
Nurses or medics usually have it as good as upper mgt. They must be in a fairly clean enviroment and be available for emergencies. They usually have a b-hut or part of a building all to themselves.