Comments on: Why isn’t the DoD removing Dyncorp from Afghanistan? http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/ Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:14:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: XPatXDI http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12958 XPatXDI Sun, 01 Aug 2010 17:25:25 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-12958 I had to tag on to this comment as I have worked for DI and have left because of obvious lies that senior managers of LOGCAP have been feeding to the employees and the senior management of the DI. DI had put LOGCAP IV in place a year before the actual award was granted. Charles Moss the "senior HR director" has lied into oblivion about "everything being ready". I can tell you first hand: nothing was in place; NOTHING!!! I say this, because I have had and still have first hand knowledge about how this whole LOGCAP program has been "working" from the beginning. So, to hear the pure and simple bulls**t about people not being paid because it is their own damn fault is beyond comprehension and to say that one ought to be furious about this would be an understatement. The whole HR/Accounting of LOGCAP (& DI for that matter) has been in a disarray, long before LOGCAP kicked/was awarded. Just to give you a simple example to show how wrong this whole thing is: nothing has been created into the Accounting nor HR systems to track and be used for LOGCAP purposes when the award kicks in (at the time); e.g. no charge codes in the DIs Timetracking System to charge time worked on LOGCAP. So, agian, to say that the employees are at fault is the easiest way out. Why do anything but point a finger at someone that is in the middle of nowhere, does not have proper internet connection, does not live in proper living conditions, and gee also most probably is a stupid non-educated nobody, why not ensure that 'nobody' gets blamed for DI' faults. I said enough, and I can tell you all a million more things about DI in general and not only LOGCAP. In whole honesty I am ashamed to have been associated with people that would sell their own mother and more, just for their own interest. For all of you believing in heaven in hell, I strongly advise you to pray for all of them to burn in hell, as they so much deserve it. Enough said. I had to tag on to this comment as I have worked for DI and have left because of obvious lies that senior managers of LOGCAP have been feeding to the employees and the senior management of the DI.
DI had put LOGCAP IV in place a year before the actual award was granted. Charles Moss the “senior HR director” has lied into oblivion about “everything being ready”.
I can tell you first hand: nothing was in place; NOTHING!!!
I say this, because I have had and still have first hand knowledge about how this whole LOGCAP program has been “working” from the beginning.

So, to hear the pure and simple bulls**t about people not being paid because it is their own damn fault is beyond comprehension and to say that one ought to be furious about this would be an understatement.

The whole HR/Accounting of LOGCAP (& DI for that matter) has been in a disarray, long before LOGCAP kicked/was awarded.

Just to give you a simple example to show how wrong this whole thing is: nothing has been created into the Accounting nor HR systems to track and be used for LOGCAP purposes when the award kicks in (at the time); e.g. no charge codes in the DIs Timetracking System to charge time worked on LOGCAP.

So, agian, to say that the employees are at fault is the easiest way out. Why do anything but point a finger at someone that is in the middle of nowhere, does not have proper internet connection, does not live in proper living conditions, and gee also most probably is a stupid non-educated nobody, why not ensure that ‘nobody’ gets blamed for DI’ faults.

I said enough, and I can tell you all a million more things about DI in general and not only LOGCAP.

In whole honesty I am ashamed to have been associated with people that would sell their own mother and more, just for their own interest. For all of you believing in heaven in hell, I strongly advise you to pray for all of them to burn in hell, as they so much deserve it.

Enough said.

]]> By: steve http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-12173 steve Sun, 04 Jul 2010 15:20:51 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-12173 i was offered a job with dycorp is it still not paying employees and is it a mistake to except job need some feed back thanks i was offered a job with dycorp is it still not paying employees and is it a mistake to except job need some feed back thanks

]]> By: Philip Nolan http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11718 Philip Nolan Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:25:10 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11718 Did your manager receive a copy of the BOE for the next contract year? Is your job included? Did your manager receive a copy of the BOE for the next contract year? Is your job included?

]]> By: kuwait concerned http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11610 kuwait concerned Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:39:29 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11610 yea we are still feeling the pain of the PM's daughter. i have still not recieved my FSA and yes i was one the ones the daughter hated. yea we are still feeling the pain of the PM’s daughter. i have still not recieved my FSA and yes i was one the ones the daughter hated.

]]> By: john http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11115 john Wed, 12 May 2010 20:00:06 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11115 well you got laid off.but that's why the pay is higher than the usual positions you'll fine in the states and around the world.because you work on projects that don't last forever.glad you got paid.we dont need to close an eye to it.we need to bring to justice all that have done wrong and make then accountable for these actions that were way not right.higher management in KBR,DYNCORP,Agility,and all others who have used the American taxpayer. well you got laid off.but that’s why the pay is higher than the usual positions you’ll fine in the states and around the world.because you work on projects that don’t last forever.glad you got paid.we dont need to close an eye to it.we need to bring to justice all that have done wrong and make then accountable for these actions that were way not right.higher management in KBR,DYNCORP,Agility,and all others who have used the American taxpayer.

]]> By: john http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11114 john Wed, 12 May 2010 19:50:05 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11114 Agreed, I love contracting and it's also for some of the folks I work with,not just the good pay.it's just those few really corrupt ones that are making it hellish on a lot of us.like I said before hope DOD cleans all of it.and their back yard to. Agreed, I love contracting and it’s also for some of the folks I work with,not just the good pay.it’s just those few really corrupt ones that are making it hellish on a lot of us.like I said before hope DOD cleans all of it.and their back yard to.

]]> By: john http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11113 john Wed, 12 May 2010 19:43:31 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11113 you just got with a corrupt contractor.no wonder.it was started in Kuwait.they were quiet simply over chargeing for delivery on product and services.just caught up to them.as it should.I am sick of these people giveing contractors a bad name.there are a lot of legit ones out there believe it or not.I hope they clean up the whole industry. you just got with a corrupt contractor.no wonder.it was started in Kuwait.they were quiet simply over chargeing for delivery on product and services.just caught up to them.as it should.I am sick of these people giveing contractors a bad name.there are a lot of legit ones out there believe it or not.I hope they clean up the whole industry.

]]> By: john http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11112 john Wed, 12 May 2010 19:38:31 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11112 Fluor is up to the task.all the talks I've had with any of their workers have been positive.they are getting paid.and the benefits they have far out weigh KBR or DYNCORP. Fluor is up to the task.all the talks I’ve had with any of their workers have been positive.they are getting paid.and the benefits they have far out weigh KBR or DYNCORP.

]]> By: john http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11111 john Wed, 12 May 2010 19:33:55 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11111 Not beyond my comprehension.Dyncorp took over contract in June 2009 in Kuwait,I have seen this first hand,98 percent of the management is former KBR here.I have been lucky so far.I work under one of their sub company's and my pay has been on time for the last four months.now I am transitioning to totally being Dyncorp.all those complaints I have heard from my fellow co workers about pay I am sure I am headed for now.these games between contracts have been going on for years.DOD needs to step up and put more control on this to. Not beyond my comprehension.Dyncorp took over contract in June 2009 in Kuwait,I have seen this first hand,98 percent of the management is former KBR here.I have been lucky so far.I work under one of their sub company’s and my pay has been on time for the last four months.now I am transitioning to totally being Dyncorp.all those complaints I have heard from my fellow co workers about pay I am sure I am headed for now.these games between contracts have been going on for years.DOD needs to step up and put more control on this to.

]]> By: Joe http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11107 Joe Wed, 12 May 2010 17:12:30 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11107 Not entirely true. People like me with clearances actually work for the home company in the states. But subject us to all the same rules as the offshore employees. Not entirely true. People like me with clearances actually work for the home company in the states. But subject us to all the same rules as the offshore employees.

]]> By: Joe http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-11100 Joe Wed, 12 May 2010 09:10:33 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-11100 I disagree with your statement. I am one of those people who they didn't pay. I normally don't post things on these sites, I just read them. But when you say that something is not true, when I know it is then I have to say something. I was one of the lucky ones hired on with Agility, then when I got to Afghanistan, not even a week later they brought us all into a room and told us we could either take their deal, or get Agility to pay for our trip home. So since I had just gotten there, I took the deal at a substantially lower pay rate. They shipped me off to start up a project at a remote FOB, and initially we had no HR nor Finanace support. By this time a month had past and I had not been paid. I stuck around because they said since the transition happened so fast, they needed a little more time to catch up. I granted them another 2 months without pay. So I decided to go home for non payment. My intentions were to sue them due to breach of contract. On my way out the HR manager sat me down and spoke with me, and when I told him of my intentions, he walked me upstairs to the finanace manager. Who immediately had money wired to my account. This was not I agreed upon, this was no where in my contract. They were taking out misc. taxes and such. I was very disappointed in the whole situation. I agree with a lot of other posters to this site, KBR did not have the best management, but they ALWAYS paid me on time. So I ended up leaving and by the time I made it home, the rest of the money that they owed me had be deposited into my account. Why did I have to quit a job to get paid, isnt that backwards. I'm not saying anything bad about the company because they provided me an opportunity when I was unemployed. But they really need to take a good look at who they hire. I disagree with your statement. I am one of those people who they didn’t pay. I normally don’t post things on these sites, I just read them. But when you say that something is not true, when I know it is then I have to say something. I was one of the lucky ones hired on with Agility, then when I got to Afghanistan, not even a week later they brought us all into a room and told us we could either take their deal, or get Agility to pay for our trip home. So since I had just gotten there, I took the deal at a substantially lower pay rate. They shipped me off to start up a project at a remote FOB, and initially we had no HR nor Finanace support. By this time a month had past and I had not been paid. I stuck around because they said since the transition happened so fast, they needed a little more time to catch up. I granted them another 2 months without pay. So I decided to go home for non payment. My intentions were to sue them due to breach of contract. On my way out the HR manager sat me down and spoke with me, and when I told him of my intentions, he walked me upstairs to the finanace manager. Who immediately had money wired to my account. This was not I agreed upon, this was no where in my contract. They were taking out misc. taxes and such. I was very disappointed in the whole situation. I agree with a lot of other posters to this site, KBR did not have the best management, but they ALWAYS paid me on time. So I ended up leaving and by the time I made it home, the rest of the money that they owed me had be deposited into my account. Why did I have to quit a job to get paid, isnt that backwards. I’m not saying anything bad about the company because they provided me an opportunity when I was unemployed. But they really need to take a good look at who they hire.

]]> By: Fed-up http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-10481 Fed-up Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:49:35 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-10481 Are you kidding me? This story is completely true..I don't know who you are, but you must get your facts together. I can go outside my container right now and ask anyone who walks by if they have gotten paid, either they will say yes, but it took three months,no or they will give me a story about someone they know who has not gotten paid or has had taxes removed from their pay(when it states on thier w-4 EXEMPT) or even worse having their paycheck deposited into SOMEONE elses bank..hmmmmm... I think we all are pretty fed-up with the incompetence that Dyncorp,"hicks" has provided us. So, Austin Jospeh, get it right. Oh hey...why don't you ask Dyncorp employees why they have to pay for thier own ticket home. Give me that answer and please don't tell me Dyncorp is not frauding the govenment..... Are you kidding me? This story is completely true..I don’t know who you are, but you must get your facts together. I can go outside my container right now and ask anyone who walks by if they have gotten paid, either they will say yes, but it took three months,no or they will give me a story about someone they know who has not gotten paid or has had taxes removed from their pay(when it states on thier w-4 EXEMPT) or even worse having their paycheck deposited into SOMEONE elses bank..hmmmmm… I think we all are pretty fed-up with the incompetence that Dyncorp,”hicks” has provided us. So, Austin Jospeh, get it right. Oh hey…why don’t you ask Dyncorp employees why they have to pay for thier own ticket home. Give me that answer and please don’t tell me Dyncorp is not frauding the govenment…..

]]> By: Ms Sparky http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-10047 Ms Sparky Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:11:40 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-10047 Lily1-Thanks. I can not stress the value of people like you and others who are willing to gather and pass on the information to share with others. You know companies like KBR, Dyncorp and Flour just to name a few are not doing that. I look forward to hearing any information you can share on Dyncorp and Afghanistan. Lily1-Thanks. I can not stress the value of people like you and others who are willing to gather and pass on the information to share with others. You know companies like KBR, Dyncorp and Flour just to name a few are not doing that. I look forward to hearing any information you can share on Dyncorp and Afghanistan.

]]> By: Lily1 http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-10040 Lily1 Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:00:40 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-10040 Hello, Ms. Sparky I absolutely love your website, it is very detailed on the real information that tends to get swept under the rug. I will definitely be on here reading what you have to say and have people who are in the know with Dyncorp and will be all about giving you information. Keep up the awesome job, you rock! Hello,
Ms. Sparky I absolutely love your website, it is very detailed on the real information that tends to get swept under the rug. I will definitely be on here reading what you have to say and have people who are in the know with Dyncorp and will be all about giving you information. Keep up the awesome job, you rock!

]]> By: Ms Sparky http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9383 Ms Sparky Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:05:46 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-9383 I am so glad you were able to pick up work at home. But, do not think your efforts to change things for the better have gone unnoticed. I know first hand, the wheels of change move painfully slow in the Defense contracting arena. But I know current and future employees will reap the rewards of your efforts. Please stay in touch!. And yes. <strong>NAMING NAMES IS GOOD! </strong> Let corporate and the DCMA know exactly who the problem is! I am so glad you were able to pick up work at home. But, do not think your efforts to change things for the better have gone unnoticed. I know first hand, the wheels of change move painfully slow in the Defense contracting arena. But I know current and future employees will reap the rewards of your efforts. Please stay in touch!.

And yes. NAMING NAMES IS GOOD! Let corporate and the DCMA know exactly who the problem is!

]]> By: TruthseekerUSA http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9382 TruthseekerUSA Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:20:44 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-9382 Joe's comments on the 'current' conditions of DynCorp employees at KAF match the conditions from November & December of 2009. Nothing has changed. Many people with the authority to change the situation have been notified yet nothing is being done about it. Scott Mount and Angie Ham are but 2 examples of the problem. It is good to see someone else not afraid to name the names of those responsible for the problems. I do wonder what happened to 'DI Guy'. He said that he was from DynCorp in Fort Worth and that he had the ear of those at the top. I was one who sent my report to the DynCorp hotline as he requested. All I received was an e-mail that said my report had been received and that I would be contacted. My report gave them my name, address and phone numbers. I have not been contacted since then. I had hopes that someone at Fort Worth would actually do something about Scott Mount and his gang but it appears that nothing will be done. I even met face to face with one of our US Congressmen about DynCorp but nothing has come of that meeting either. At this point I have lost all faith in justice ever being served over there. I wish all of you still stuck in this mess the best of luck. Soon after I left DynCorp I was picked up by Fluor. While I was at Greenville SC in training I received a phone call with a job offer from my home Local. I resigned on the spot from Fluor and got on a plane back home that night. I am now home working for a Union contractor. I make the same money that DynCorp & Fluor offered me but I also get my H&W benefits and my Union pension on top of that. Oh, I also get to go home every night and have weekends off and no one is lobbing rockets at me anymore. I will say that Fluor was much more organized than DynCorp and they are offering more money for the same position. The downside is that I met people who have been living in the hotel since November of 2009 waiting for clearance on their SF85’s. That is over 4 months of living in a hotel, sharing a room and waiting. No fun at all. Good luck to all of you LOGCAP employees. I, for one, am done with the games being played by the Scott Mounts of the world. He is being paid better than any of us can even imagine. It is your tax dollars that are being used for this and we should all be bitter about that. TruthseekerUSA Joe’s comments on the ‘current’ conditions of DynCorp employees at KAF match the conditions from November & December of 2009. Nothing has changed. Many people with the authority to change the situation have been notified yet nothing is being done about it. Scott Mount and Angie Ham are but 2 examples of the problem. It is good to see someone else not afraid to name the names of those responsible for the problems.

I do wonder what happened to ‘DI Guy’. He said that he was from DynCorp in Fort Worth and that he had the ear of those at the top. I was one who sent my report to the DynCorp hotline as he requested. All I received was an e-mail that said my report had been received and that I would be contacted. My report gave them my name, address and phone numbers. I have not been contacted since then. I had hopes that someone at Fort Worth would actually do something about Scott Mount and his gang but it appears that nothing will be done. I even met face to face with one of our US Congressmen about DynCorp but nothing has come of that meeting either. At this point I have lost all faith in justice ever being served over there. I wish all of you still stuck in this mess the best of luck.

Soon after I left DynCorp I was picked up by Fluor. While I was at Greenville SC in training I received a phone call with a job offer from my home Local. I resigned on the spot from Fluor and got on a plane back home that night. I am now home working for a Union contractor. I make the same money that DynCorp & Fluor offered me but I also get my H&W benefits and my Union pension on top of that. Oh, I also get to go home every night and have weekends off and no one is lobbing rockets at me anymore.

I will say that Fluor was much more organized than DynCorp and they are offering more money for the same position. The downside is that I met people who have been living in the hotel since November of 2009 waiting for clearance on their SF85’s. That is over 4 months of living in a hotel, sharing a room and waiting. No fun at all.

Good luck to all of you LOGCAP employees. I, for one, am done with the games being played by the Scott Mounts of the world. He is being paid better than any of us can even imagine. It is your tax dollars that are being used for this and we should all be bitter about that.

TruthseekerUSA

]]> By: Ms Sparky http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9378 Ms Sparky Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:57:41 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-9378 Joe I can't tell you the number of similar comments I have heard with regards to Scott Mount and his group of bainlings (from Legend of the Seeker). I'm sorry you're stuck in a crappy place like A-stan and then are being treated poorly by your contractor. Please send me any pics you have of your living conditions. Leave specific comments here. I know I get many hits from Dyncorp in Forth Worth. Tell them what's going on. But I recommend you use a user ID that can not be connected to you. I'm sure "Scotty" would not approve and would reprimand you accordingly! Joe I can’t tell you the number of similar comments I have heard with regards to Scott Mount and his group of bainlings (from Legend of the Seeker). I’m sorry you’re stuck in a crappy place like A-stan and then are being treated poorly by your contractor. Please send me any pics you have of your living conditions. Leave specific comments here. I know I get many hits from Dyncorp in Forth Worth. Tell them what’s going on. But I recommend you use a user ID that can not be connected to you. I’m sure “Scotty” would not approve and would reprimand you accordingly!

]]> By: joe http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9374 joe Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:07:03 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-9374 I come here today to let everyone know just how Dyncorp treats their hard working employees, they have us living like animals, stacked up on top of each other in old run down tents ( eight man tent has twenty people male/female). People like Angie Hamme and Scott Mount live in nice living containers while the real workers live in shit. The management here uses people to do job and they even make half of their salary meaning tcn's fn's they cant even wipe their ass themselves.These people they call the Leesville redneck mafia have to go for this place to change for the good. I come here today to let everyone know just how Dyncorp treats their hard working employees, they have us living like animals, stacked up on top of each other in old run down tents ( eight man tent has twenty people male/female). People like Angie Hamme and Scott Mount live in nice living containers while the real workers live in shit. The management here uses people to do job and they even make half of their salary meaning tcn’s fn’s they cant even wipe their ass themselves.These people they call the Leesville redneck mafia have to go for this place to change for the good.

]]> By: Philip Nolan http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9334 Philip Nolan Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:09:51 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-9334 TO 0002 or 0003; more likely 0002. Besides, such consolidations seem to benefit Haskett. DI continues to give him more control over more work. The PM TBD will likely be another 'Friend of Toney' like so many in Kuwait. TO 0002 or 0003; more likely 0002. Besides, such consolidations seem to benefit Haskett. DI continues to give him more control over more work.

The PM TBD will likely be another ‘Friend of Toney’ like so many in Kuwait.

]]> By: DI Guy http://mssparky.com/2009/12/why-isnt-the-dod-removing-dyncorp-from-afghanistan/comment-page-1/#comment-9333 DI Guy Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:55:15 +0000 http://mssparky.com/?p=7864#comment-9333 I'm not so sure. Which Kuwait Task Order? I got a new high-level org chart just yesterday that reflects some re-orgs in the company (not LOGCAP, they just combined some programs into a single SBU). The little box under LOGCAP for the Kuwait Air Field task order has "TBD" instead of a PM's name. I’m not so sure. Which Kuwait Task Order? I got a new high-level org chart just yesterday that reflects some re-orgs in the company (not LOGCAP, they just combined some programs into a single SBU). The little box under LOGCAP for the Kuwait Air Field task order has “TBD” instead of a PM’s name.

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