Experienced overseas workers know there will be a certain amount of bull shi*t associated with any contractor, job or country you might consider working in. It doesn’t matter who you’re working for or where you’re working, there is bound to be some machiavellian manager in charge or worse yet, one who appears to have the management IQ of a carrot. And yes, this “root vegetable” will be in total control of your life in this foreign country. There are atmospheric and environmental issues…..Antarctica is too damn cold, Iraq is to damn hot and Asia is too damn humid. There are cultural issues and language barriers with the locals and the ever present separation from your family issues.
Those variables and more factor in to what I call a persons “Maximim Bull Sh*t Tolerance Level” (MBSTL). This level is the maximum level of bull sh*t a person can endure on a job for the amount of money they are being paid. Personal financial goals and situations are different therefore, every bodies “MBSTL” is as different and unique as they are. But it would appear that pay and “MBSTL”are directly proportional. The higher the pay, the higher the “MBSTL”. With this information, one should be able to conclude that ZERO pay would equal a ZERO “MBSTL”.
In all my years of working overseas, I have found this to be true. Don’t pay what you agreed to pay them and their normally tolerant attitude becomes intolerable and disgruntled! Interesting phenomena don’t you think? Let’s examine why this might happen.
A person, in good faith, accepts an offer to be paid a certain wage at certain intervals from a company such as DYNCORP to go to nasty third world country like Afghanistan in the middle of a war to support the United States mission Operation Enduring Freedom. It is be bitterly cold in the winter, stifling hot in the summer, dusty all the time and insurgents are actively trying to kill you. Tools and materials are difficult to get if at all, you desperately miss your family, and yes a “machiavellian root vegetable” is giving you orders. Still this appears to be well under your “MBSTL”.
Now throw in the fact that, your desperately needed paycheck did not get direct deposited on the next expected payday. Hmmm. You give them that one. You are a new employee. Maybe someone didn’t get the paperwork in on time. Your “MBSTL” is lowered somewhat but you are willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
The next pay day rolls around, a month later and still no paycheck has been direct deposited into your account. If you had wanted to go to Afghanistan as a volunteer instead of a Dyncorp employee you could have joined some humanitarian organization. At this point in time you have basically worked for free for nearly two months.
You signed a contract with Dyncorp and they agreed to pay you a certain amount on a certain day. And they didn’t. They are in breach of their contract. But then Dyncorp Deputy Project Manager in Kandahar informs you that you can’t quit because they will charge you for the airfare and expenses over and back. It will be deducted from the check you haven’t even gotten yet! What the hell?
I have received numerous complaints from Dyncorp employees in Afghanistan about this issue. Here are some of their comments.
Now we are at two pay cycles late…and no help at all…just excuses…I am going home now….I will not work and not get paid…..Fluor offered me a job…I will surely take that…..EVERYONE is pissed……Dyncorp will not last long like this……We thought KBR was bad….this one takes the cake
The people that said they were going to quit because of not being paid were told they would have to pay for their own ticket home too. The sad part was that these same people couldn’t afford to buy a ticket (hadn’t been paid…) but DynCorp said “no problem, we’ll take if from your final paycheck”.
I had to go to Dyncorp Corporate to get paid. That really pissed off Dyncorp management in Kandahar. I was told “This issues is between (you), Payroll and HR. Let’s keep it at that level! We were also told by the same manager if we ever talked to the DCMA we would be fired.
They are now trying to pay in cash. They are paying the SCW’s in cash as well. Many of them haven’t been paid for two months as well. What in the hell do any of us need a fistful of cash here in Afghanistan? We need it in our bank accounts for our families. This is really putting the SCW’s at risk. I suspect there is going to be a whole lot of stealing and fighting going on in the tent.
One would think this is Dyncorp’s first big job , their first overseas job. Just maybe they are not cut out for LOGCAP IV.
Here’s what I do know. If Dyncorp has submitted vouchers to the DoD to be paid for payroll that they haven’t paid. IT’S FRAUD!!! If Dyncorp hasn’t paid their people in two months the amount agreed to in the agreed to method, they are in breach of their contract. If you quit after not being paid and they charge you for the airfare and expenses let me know, I will help you find an attorney.
Here are a few of the Dyncorp managers involved.
Hank Miller – Dyncorp Project Manager – Kandahar, Afghanistan (Allegedly a retired 1-star Army General trying to verify)
Scott Mount – Dyncorp Deputy Project Manager – Kandahar, Afghanistan and the former KBR Project Manager for DF&I sites in Iraq. He “Voluntarily” resigned from the project in 2005. Allegedly there were some questionable WBS coding practices and he is not eligible for rehire at KBR. The word on the street was that KBR implemented the “Front Line Supervisor Training” in part because of his cronyism and management style. Paul Cerjan the Program Manager of LOGCAP III even sent out a “Cerjan Sends” slide condemning the threats and intimidation tactics used by Scott Mount and his Leesville “Redneck Mafia.” I have so much info on Scott Mount and KBR, I could write a book just on him. He is named in at least one discrimination civil suit.
Conrad Cannon – Dyncorp O&M manager. Also known as the “I don’t know” man.
I would love to hear from more current and former Dyncorp employees from Afghanistan. Is this happening anywhere else? Let me know.
Ms Sparky
I am a new employee, formally KBR, like damn near 90 percent of us on the contract in Afghanistan, I have never seen anything like this stuff over here I had an incident the other day that almost got me fired for asking a question. That seem normal, people talk about how bad KBR, was at least we got paid on time and there was some structure, upper management killed KBR!! But with DynCorp the inexperience people they have in charge is taking them underfast, CAR’s are being giving out left and right, and no one has a clue about anything, I wonder if the goverment didn’t see this coming. DynCorp has to be the worst contractor in the business!!
I’ve recently received e-mails soliciting employment or Dyncorp, Afghan operations. The e-mail seemed rather false. Here’s the exact wording:
Dear Ronald D. Jackson,
We hereby acknowledge the receipt of your CV/Resume and have passed it on to our screening department where our highly esteemed team of recruitment professionals have access the content and evaluate the credibility and potentials in the CV/Resume. After which we shall forward a letter of eligibility along with a contract document if your qualification is suitable with our requirement.
DYNCORP INTERNATIONAL AFGHAN OPERATION, upon the success of your Application, and after they re-processed and confirmed as perfect for the office you are applying for.
You will be contacted shortly regarding the status of your CV and your past working experiences those are the Yardsticks to ascertain your Qualifications and determine our response to you.
Best Wishes,
Dr. Alexander W. Stephen
HR Director,
DYNCORP INTERNATIONAL AFGHAN OPERATION.
Tel: +447024052573
Does this seems on the “up and up” to anyone? Then again, after reading this blog, even if it is legitimate, the thought of not being paid is frustrating
I would be highly suspicious of this email as generally you are contaced by a recruiter and not the HR Director. Additionally the country code that goes with this phone number is the Isle of Man and as far a I know they would not be runing any LCIV recruitment out of there.
The wording is most definately not US English.
If the next email you get asks you for any type of money in order to do your processing – I would report them to both Dyncorp and the IG.
By the way you can trace the source of the email back to the original by clicking on viewing source up in the address section. If the originating email is not @dyncorprecruiting.com then I would be certain that it is not that it is not real.
Sorry.
This is a scam. The Country code is the United Kingdom and the last I heard Dyncorp was not recruiting out of The UK. There are tons of employment scams out there. Never send money and never send your personal information to anyone who solicits you! There are hundreds of scam artists out there charging for visas and airfare all with promise of reimbursing you ASAP and then there are the identity thieves!!
“After which we shall forward” very English in manner and composed and penned by a rouge bastard and deserving of the gallows bird for impersonating the good Doctor.
And they shouted in once accord, “Here! Here!”
Haven’t had my second cup of coffee yet. See correction below.
And they all shouted in one accord, “Here! Here!”
Stick to HR and leave the comedy to those signed by agents.
Hi,I read what everyone has to say about Dyncorp, I worked in KAF for another company for a year..then resigned..anyways does anyone have the HR email addresses for Dyncorp and Fluor in KAF..I have had no luck sending my CV through their websites..or whats the best way to get recruited by them..I am a Kenyan in Kenya right now..or does anyone know where Dyncorp offices in Kenya are located or their recruiters. Thanks in Advance.
Just to let everyone know, your not alone. Currently working for Dyncorp in Kuwait maintaining Kuwait Air Force (KAF) F/A-18 aircraft. Talk about “hostile work environment” this place is a daily threat of “LWOP” (leave without pay) or termination. Pay is screwed up. They tax our allowances and W-2 forms are 6 pay periods short. If you attempt to notify HR in Dubai, they tell you that you must first contact the local office (this will be reported back to management at job site) and you might as well quit, as you will be terminated or let go at the end of your contract. And talk about “good ole boy network” Maintenance manager is old buddy from the good old days with district manager in Dubai, so anything he says is “golden” and is not questioned. This could be a really good place to work, but thanks to management, it’s almost time for my DynCorp Dash (hauling butt back to USA) after bonus is in bank (3 months). It takes so long (4-6 months) to get your paperwork in order to come here that 95% of new hires quit before ever getting here. Got enough to complain about (all factual) to write a book, so I’ll shoot some more later. ***Anyone else working or have worked for Dyncorp/KAF in Kuwait? Let’s hear from you too!!!***
I am sorry to hear this is still going on! You would think there is someone in Dyncorp who can get the pay issues resolved. Payroll is not rocket science!! I am getting ready to publish post on who to contact in Dyncorp if you don’t get your W-2 or if it is incorrect. Evidently it’s a consistent problem and now to find out the W-2′s are not correct. GREAT!
I would love to hear it all. And if there is a particular manager who is causing the problems, name names. Are any of these problem managers former KBR?
Keep us posted!
Call the DI ethics hotline:
Company Hotline: hotline@dyn-intl.com
877-396-4685 877-396-4685 or 703-560-1203 703-560-1203
Senior management is starting to become aware of how fucked up things are on those programs, and they are not happy. And when I say senior management, I mean the CEO, Sr VP of HR, etc. The CEO made all his direct reports listen to some of the hotline calls a few weeks ago, unedited and verbatim. Sooner or later some of these managers are going to go. Hopefully sooner.
I have resigned from my job in South Africa based on a offer that I received from DI. After going through medical for 2 weeks, I finally received my FSA to sign only to see that my salary on the FSA is 60% less than what I was offered before leaving my country. I have sold all my furniture and giving up my house. I have maintenance to pay for 2 children in S.A. and other dept. WHAT NOW, I will return to S.A. with nowhere to go, from stable life to nothing in 2 weeks. AGAIN WHAT NOW
Do you have the original emails with the original offer? It may be a human trafficking issue.
I also recommend that people who are going to work for these companies not quite their jobs until the very last minute. But I see in your case it looks like you did that.
the recruitment company told me to get ready as i will fly in a weeks time, only left 2 months later. the offer letter was received in my own country and was signed and returned and my decision to come to afghan was based on that salary. the evening before departure from Kuwait to afghan after all medicals was passed they gave me a FSA to sign with the new offer with 60% reduction in salary. I did not sign and did not fly, im still in kuwait and they are willing to negotiate a new rate which is still 50% cut in salary, my lawyer wants to contact the President and senior vice president? I have the original offer and ALL the emails and copy of the first FSA and want to give me another FSA tomorrow with now 50% salary cut instead of 60%
That is Human Trafficking and it is BS. I am glad you kept all of your emails and I am glad you have an attorney. It would interesting to know how many other people they have done this to. I think that makes me the most angry is the DoD/DoS is allowing these contractors to get away with this. As far as I’m concerned they are complicit in the crimes of these contractors.
I resigned from my position making $50,000 a year with possible promotions. I was offered a position with Dyncorp and told to resign because I would be flying out in 6 days. After the 6th day I herd nothing from them I called the HR manager Kwan Reid and the recruiter Autumn Menshew and they did not return my calls. Finally I contacted the VP of HR and asked what is the situation I have done everything and resigned from my career because I was told to do so because of the rapid process, now I have no job or contact from your HR.
This company has stressed my family and me out, if I do not recieve a ticket in the next week with a 6 figure salary I will sue.
The two names you gave no longer work at the company…
when did Autumn leave, I emailed her 2 days ago after meeting her at a job fair 2 weeks ago and she just got there, they have all new recruiters.
Apparently DynCorp has done the bait and switch before and unfortunately it stood up in court:
http://www.leagle.com/unsecure/page.htm?shortname=infco20100720135
The contract stated that DynCorp would pay Lindsey $4,063.66 every two weeks, resulting in an annualized salary of $105,655.16. After Lindsey had begun work in Iraq, DynCorp discovered that it had made a mistake and changed Lindsey’s salary terms to an hourly wage of $24.90 an hour, resulting in about $51,792 annually.
Taken from the Dyncorp website…..
DynCorp International Afghan Operation Warning
We have become aware of an internet scam using the DynCorp International name, and pretending to offer employment placement with “DynCorp International Afghan Operation” in return for payment to a recruiter. This scam may also involve a request for personal data in connection to a visa application for Afghanistan. The false recruiter contact may use an e-mail of dynrecruiting@dynafghan.com, although other e-mail addresses or organization names may be used as well. Please do not send any money or any personal information to this organization or e-mail address, or to any other request for money to secure employment with DynCorp International or any of its subsidiaries.
DynCorp International has absolutely no connection with this internet scam. No legitimate recruitment effort by DynCorp International will ever include a request for payment from job applicants. Any attempts to request such payments should be reported to DynCorp International, to corporate.security@dyn-intl.com.
THANK YOU!! I think it is time to blog about this in earnest. I have received several complaints and questions involving several scams!!
I just sent this to snopes.com.
The Dyncorp link is: http://www.dyn-intl.com/afghan-operation-scam.aspx
Good thinking!!! I will blog about it this week. Do you know how they got your contact information?
Someone sent the job information to an employee at the NY State Dept. of Labor. He sent it on to me and suggested that I apply for one of the jobs, which I did. The tip off was the atrocious English used in the emails sent to me from “fristlight.hr.croker@googlemail.com.”
I have just received a job offer on the mail address in the Dyncorp warning…thank god i checked first
Very smart man!!
Thanks..are there any other scams in this vein??? Im trying to get work in afghan and Iraq and dont need to get ripped off…have been in Iraq and kurdistan and need to get back asap…i certainly dont need to waste my time with bloody rip off artists
As a general rule – if you are not contacted via telephone by someone who states they are a Dyn, Fluor or KBR recruiter – you can bet it is a scam.
All of the companies I know of who are recruiting for employment may collect your resume via a web site – but they are sure going to want to ask you some questions before they come anywhere close to offering you a job.
I was notified by email..and so were three other mates…seems we got the bogus contatct detail from the same people who are in Aghanistan…managed to warn them so they warned their mates as well
Do all of the contractors: KBR, Dyncorp Halliburton etc.. pay close to the same amount for similar jobs in Iraq and Afghansitsn? Thnaks in advance
For LOGCAP that should be the case since the contracts specifically incorporate the pay scales for the positions. Although the pay may not be EXACTLY the same it should be pretty close and no one is going to be paying a lot more than anyone else. There are also different salary levels for US Citizens and TCN’s.
These rates can not be changed without the written authorization of the KO.
Additionally, there is a clause that prohibits the contractors from competing for staffing resources via increased salary.
The Uplift amounts are also set by law and approved by the KO, so they should pretty much be the same.
The biggest differences may come in the areas of bonuses and R&R benefits. But there will not be one that is extremely better than the other two either.
Sorry to tell you this but you are mistaken on more than one of your statements. Some companies DO pay more than othes for the very same position, uplift percentages are different between companies, R&R has major differences, some offer bonuses and others don’t. I just felt that this should be stated.
I know uplift and hazard pay is established buy the State Department not the Defense Department. I believe it is evaluated every two weeks. As far as wages go, they should be close. But you are right it’s all the extras R&R etc that are different.
I know that not all contractors received uplift and hazard pay in Iraq. But their wages were 2-4 times higher than mine so maybe it was factored in to that.
I did not say that they DON’T pay different amounts. What I said and intended to convey was that there should not be BIG differences between the salaries – for example one company should not be paying a LOG Coordinator $15 and hour and another $40 an hour. As this was the question – do they pay pretty much the same.
There is infact a CEILING on the amount that can be paid for each position and these are stated in attachments to the contract.
There is also a CEILING on the amount of the Uplifts – this does not mean that everyone is paying exactly the same uplift. For example in the offer letter from Fluor for the Haiti TO they are offering a 30% hardsip allowance – the actual DOS hardship allowance for Haiti at State.gov is 35% so they could actually pay up to 35% hardship allowance.
Also you will note that I DID state that the biggest differences would be in the areas of Bonuses and R&R benefits.
Below is the section of the contract that addresses salary and allowances
H-36 Hiring Practices
The Government is concerned about the possibility that certain contractor hiring or sourcing practices may materialize and be detrimental to the LOGCAP IV Program under this multiple award IDIQ contract. While we recognize that there may be heavy competition between execution contractors for scarce personnel or other resources, contractors are cautioned to be vigilant of fair compensation contract requirements and also mindful of LOGCAP IV Program interests.
The Government will not reimburse the contractor for any costs in excess of what we consider reasonable or for unallowable costs.
In an effort to minimize recruiting and retention practices for scarce resources that may be harmful to the LOGCAP program as a whole, the following provisions apply to work performed under this contract.
The contractor shall seek written approval from the Procuring Contracting Officer prior to increasing base pay or allowances over 10% in a single year over the amounts proposed for the basic contract. Any labor cost increases inconsistent with this clause, or without written approval, shall be strictly unallowable.
During the term of the contract, the contractor agrees it will not knowingly solicit employees directly involved in the work on this Program employed by other unaffiliated companies without the prior written consent of such other company. This agreement is not intended to restrict the rights of the employees of the other company from seeking and obtaining employment from the contractor on their own initiative, or in response to publicly posted employment advertisements or job fairs, so long as no knowing solicitation or proselytizing occurs on the part of the contractor.
I have a question why does Fluor pay 80 percent uplift in Afghanistan and Dyncorp offers 70 percent? KBR still pays 75 percent. I was offered 70 percent uplift from Dyncorp so that is why i am asking this question.
thanks
You got me on that one. I was told the uplift is set country to country by the State Department. They determine the risk and set the % for uplift accordingly. Now…I must find out. Any contract administrators want to chime in on this?
Ms. Sparky
You can go to http://www.state.gov search allowances. You can then find the allowance for each country. In order to determine what is exactly payable you will also need to read the directives.
I suspect that Dyn is paying lower uplift in order to save money and come in lower on their proposals in hope of winning more of the work. But then again they could just be behind the times and still be using the allowable amounts from 2007.
Can’t tell you why there is a difference other than the companies bid and were approved for differend allowances. According to http://www.state.gov the MAXIMUM allowances for Foreign Service, Danger and Hardship for both Afghanistan and Iraq is currently 80%.
That said according to H-36 of the contract the particular contractor can not increase their allowance more than 10% without Government approval.
I suspect that the difference has to do with what the individual contractors included as their uplifts in their particular proposals.
AFCAP Uplifts:
Hardship Allowance 35%
Danger Pay 35%
Foreign Service Premium 15%
Danger Pay for Iraq is currently 35% of base salary and may go or down, in according with USDOS guidelines.
Baboo is correct on the exact allowances. It needs to be pointed out however that the entire 15% foreign service allowance is only payable if the person is responsible for their own housing and food. The allowance must be reduced if housing and subsistance (food) is provided by the Government which it is under LCIV. The reduction when housing is provided is to 10% – the allowance when both housing and subsistance is provided is to 5%. Hence the difference in our two numbers. In order to determine the reductions one must read the entire guidance from the DOS.
I wonder where a tent with 2 squares at the Dfac and a lunch of K-rats puts me.
Does anyone know any contact name’s for HR in Afghanistan for either Fluor or Dyncorp? I’d really like to get in touch with one of the recruiters if possible.
Thanks in advance for any info.
Rob:
I can’t speak as to DynCorp is doing, but the Fluor recruiters in Afghanistan are only dealing with transitioning KBR employee’s who are already in country.
To get with a Fluor recruiter, you’ll have to apply on line, but before you do, make absolutely certain your resume is the very best it can possibly be – you want to make your first impression count.
Check out the article “Resume Advice for LOGCAP Job Seekers” with the accompanying comments and replies here on Ms Sparky’s site by using the Search feature or going to:
http://mssparky.com/2010/02/resume-advice-for-logcap-job-seekers/
Remember, a well-prepared, informed candidate is a better candidate.
What is Qatar,Bahrain and Kuwait uplifts for Fluor and Dyncorp?
What is the difference between AFCAP ad LGCAP uplift?
Lee
The MAXIMUM amount of Uplift is established by the Department of State – by country not by contract. As long as the uplift amounts paid do not exceed these amounts the contractor can structure their Uplift package anyway they want.
So there is no way to adequately answer your question. You can check the maximum allowance rates at the following link:
http://aoprals.state.gov/Web920/location_action.asp?MenuHide=1&CountryCode=1149
Remember however, this may not be what the company you are interested in is offering.
Additionally, the allowances are re-evaluated periodically based on the situations in the particular country and are subject to change.
i recieved an e mail from dyncorp international afghan operation along with job offer letter with high salary. later on he asked me to pay 1080GBP for the procedure, what ever. this type of e mails are fraud / falls. his name is Michael Willson and says he is HR Dirictor.
i request dyncorp international to secure their w,site.
here is the e mail dyncorpinterafgh@gmail.com
ph no +447024052573
thank you
I would say as a “DYNCORP” (note correct spelling)employee, you need to be a little more careful about what websites you decide to send stuff to. Any Dyncorp employee will have a xxxx@dyn-intl.com Email not anything at a Gmail address. Even the recruiters (which some are sub-contractors) will have the @dyn-intl.com Email. The proper Dyncorp website is: http://www.dyn-intl.com NOT dynacorpsinc.com. It’s not Dyncorps fault if someone desides to spoof their site. Protect yourself…
FROM: TJ
check this out and comment on what I got from THE sharks…..
We hereby acknowledge the receipt of your CV/Resume and have passed it
on to our screening department where our highly esteemed team of
recruitment professionals have access the content and evaluate the
credibility and potentials in the CV/Resume. After which we shall
forward a letter of eligibility along with a contract document if your
qualification is suitable with our requirement.
DYNCORP INTERNATIONAL AFGHAN OPERATION, upon the success of your
Application, and after they re-processed and confirmed as perfect for
the office you are applying for.
You will be contacted shortly regarding the status of your CV and
your past working experiences those are the Yardsticks to ascertain
your Qualifications and determine our response to you.
Regards,
Mr. Michael Wilson
Head Operation Manager,
DYNCORP INTERNATIONAL AFGHAN OPERATION.
#2-24 Kensington High Street London W8 4PT.
Tel: +447024052573
E-mail: dyncorpinterafgh@gmail.com
Web site: http://www.dynacorpsinc.com
few days later…today, I got this from them/him with 2 attachments (DYNCORP CONTRACT LETTER & Visa_Afghanistan Form)
It is of utmost importance to inform you that after the screening and scrutiny of your Curriculum Vitae with other verification procedures carried out, DynCorp International Afghan Operation, were able to resolve the status of your application along with our esteem candidate traveling to Afghanistan in support of the British/NATO troops in Kabul.
On this note, we hereby congratulate you on the success of your application and as such we have attached to you the Offer Letter/Terms of Agreement that transcends any written document along with Afghanistan Visa Application Form which you will have to fill and forward back to us if the terms of this contract is suitable with you and as well the signed copy of your Agreement.
You are therefore required to follow these procedures IMMEDIATELY so as to complete your employment formalities:
You are required to contact Alex Chambers & Solicitors for the processing of your Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism from the British High Court.
All the Hard Copies of your Contract Documents have been forward on your behalf to the Law Firm, and you are advised to contact him with your job Reference and offer code.
Alex Chambers & Solicitors.
10 Upper Bank Street,
London, E14 5JJ,
United Kingdom.
Email: alexchambers1@mail2uk.com
Contact Person: Alex Williams.
Tel: +447024080998
Fax: +44 844 774 4097
you are required to furnish us copy of Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism from the British High Court on or before 7th of April 2010 via email of (Human Resources Manager) in-case of any clarifications so that we can start the
processing of your Visa/Flight Ticket. Any clarification sent outside the Human Resources Manager Contact will not be treated and clarified.
We hereby once more congratulate you on the success of your application amongst many that have applied and thereby instruct you to expedite all requirements as aforementioned so as to be able to meet up before the deadline.
Regards,
Mr. Michael Wilson
Head Operation Manager,
DYNCORP INTERNATIONAL AFGHAN OPERATION.
#2-24 Kensington High Street London W8 4PT.
Tel: +447024017965
Email: dyncorpinterafgh@gmail.com
Web site: http://www.dynacorpsinc.com
Thanks for I checked and got informed that this is all suppose to be a fake one.
TJ
Reply..
OMG! Scott Mount, and the HR Director Steve and so many other so called bigs bosses are dumb as hell. From being racist to cocain addicted(steve) told me himself! are way beyond power crazy. Someone needs to remove these people. there was a guy fired form smoking in the wrong area just because he got into an argument with hank mill, The poor guy didnt know who he was! i could go on and on…
Feel free to go on and on about anything that is going on in Kandahar with Dyncorp. I need some new material to write about with regards to them.
Nothing new, just the same old, same old.
DynCorp isn’t going to successfully transition anything from Fluor. It’s all about making it look like an honest effort, but they really know they don’t have the boots on the ground, or the materiel. It’s a shell-game to delay the inevitable. Meanwhile, they put us grunts in RSOI tents and they ensconce themselves in nice CHU’s with phones, AFN, and internet.
Did someone say FRAZIER SHACK? It’s his A-O. He’s “in charge of everything.” Riiiiight.
I thought you were required as an US Expat to have a CAC card before deploying? I have heard that since Kandahaur is a NATO base Dyncorp employees do not require one, once you arrive you are vetted by the Command who is Canadian and POOF you are in. Mrs Crawford do you care to investigate that part. I would ask some of the new Dyncorp employees who have just recently deployed.
This is what I got from a Dyncorp employee:
I am a current Dyncorp employee in Kandahar (KAF). I arrived in country on April 24th, 2010 and received my CAC card notification on June 8th, 2010. CAC cards are not required anywhere I have been in Afghanistan except the Harvest Falcon 1 and 2 DFACs on KAF. When you arrive at KAF as an Expat, TCN, or FN, they take your passport and give you an orange (escorted required) badge. Once your HR paperwork is processed, you go get a NATO KAF badge. If you are not slated to stay at KAF, you do not need that badge. Once you leave KAF as a DEMOB, get shipped off to a FOB, or get a KAF badge they return your passport. This is not a Dyncorp requirement, it is a NATO requirement on KAF. Foreign Nationals or TCNs do not get CAC cards and must wait between 1-6 months before getting an interview with NATO for a KAF badge. This is also not Dyncorp’s policy, but it is a base policy. The FOBs can have different policies regarding badging for Expats, TCNs and FNs.
Ok, so basically we don’t need the CAC card then why do they require it for Fluor and KBR but not Dyncorp? Interesting!!!!
That’s a valid question. I think it has to do with this particular base and Dyncorp. Since Dyncorp can’t seem to get anything transitioned they probably are not pushing the CAC issue. But with KBR and Fluor all over Afghanistan they are probably requiring it because at least some if not all the camps they are at require them and they are trying to maintain consistency for employee transfers. That’s as a good a reason as I can come up with.
Sa la vie – Dyn Corp. All I can say is hats off to you Afghan workers. There are some places even the autobots will not go. Be careful and stay safe whover you work for.
Now on the other hand – kick Dyn Corps A$$ outa there. They cant get er dun and bring on KBR or Fluor. Can I get a witness? Woop Woop!
I am glad i have saved enough energon and dont feel the need to go there with any company. Yes – i will take the chicken and an aisle seat please. I aint goin to Afghan.
Sorry I can’t help myself…..it’s c’est la vie
Dear Ms Sparky,
I am having the same problem w/ DynCorp International. I received an offer of employment signed by an expert DynCorp Recruiter. In their offer of employment they did not clearly stated if the offered compensation was for a total monthly or a total yearly salary. Having seen the offered amount I automatically assumed that it was for a monthly rate and I signed the offer, sent it back to them. I have completed their recruiting requirements and had all data translated into English, because I am from a Central European country. I have been waiting for 4 months for them to send me the e-ticket – meanwhile I sold my car and picked up some lone for supporting all these procedures and to leave some funds for the family. When I got to their Kuwait recruiting center, they made it clear that the offered compensation was for a year – having said that it meant less then $1200 a month for working in Afghanistan, in a war zone. I would need some help and assistance in filing a claim to be paid back my entire loss. I have all email feedback and also have the emails from Huawei Technologies and PGA Recruitment – the companies whose offer I turned down in favouring DynCorp’s offer. No one during the entire recruiting process made it clear that their offer was for a year. After that I of course returned home. They did not even fully reimbursed my medical expenses – I do not think it is fair and I am asking for help in this case. I would need my car back and also would need funds to pay the personal loan every months that I applied because of this scam.
I need some help, legal assistance in this case. Please advise!
Best regards,
Zsolt
Please read this post: SCAM ALERT!! LOCAP Recruiting Scams Be sure to read the comments too. Does any of this apply to you and your email. If you like, you can send me your offer letter and I will take a look at it.Click the “Contact Us” tab above.
Can anyone from CSA email me? I have an offer to work for them but before I sighn on the line I want to know what I’m getting into. I havn’t heard a lot of good about his company but I need a job. banksb40@yahoo.com
Hello i am from Kosovo,i had been in interwiev in Kumanovo Macedonia they said that that their company RESALLC International LTD is recruting workers from Kosovo & Macedonia for Dyncorp and Flor does any one knows about this people ?
Hi to all.
I am from Bosnia & Herzegovina.
I am former KBR worker and I was worked in USMI-Central Green Zone Baghdad.Now I get offer letter from Dyn Corp for Fuel Operator in Kandahar with contract for 28330 usd for one year,but I have read on this site that Dyn Corp don*t pay their workers.Is that really true?
Should I accept this contract or refuse it and wait for Fluor company to call me for an interview.
Thank you all and this is very good.
Wait on Fluor. Dyncorp blows.
like the man said DynCorp blows had to quit on safety thing manager (super) would not back me when left by TCN in remote part of KAF without water for over 4 hrs. not even HR wanted any part of this it took over 3 days for safety to put out statement to drink lots of water but by then I was so pissed I went to the JAG office and let the ARMY know how they can break a contract over safety and if you do you get shit canned! I guess when the super is a TCN himself he gets to run things he takes care of his TCN’s most of the TCN’s only have 3 to 4 years in the trade and what ever happened to being a JW WIREMAN and speak of ENGLISH what goes with that the super sounded as if he had half a load on with the way he spoke ! X (KBR)it’s bad enough to live like a DOG but some TCN’s smell like them and when you hear no one sleep’s on the top bunk thats bull I had myself and some other guys on top with the light in your face and TCN’s bull shitting near your head and you got to chase them away . give it time before DynCorp kill’s someone have seen this for myself glad I got out of Dodge before that happens it will be on bonding and grounding Thank God I got a new gig will get to Kuwait at end of July so good luck out there
I get daily complaints about Dyncorp and Afghanistan. Personally, I’m glad you are out in one piece. Keep us posted on your new job in Kuwait. I hope it’s not CSA.
CSA will be gone soon. I heard US4 has won the contract, and its just needing final approval and signatures.
Thank God for small favors!
The caveat I forgot to mention is that US4 is a joint venture. KBR, Northrup Grumman, Chenaga Environmental…
Here is a link to the US4 Website:
http://www.us4kuwait.com/
Sound good ….it’s almost a year since I heard about their jobe opening at Kuwait Hilton…
hope they’re really got the job…
i applied for a job in afghanistan (us military base) under recruiter ms lily avinash of dyn intl. company. i am scared because i read so many issues about the dyn corporation. pls help me if what shall i do. thanks and godbless!
12,800 is all they are offering? That is a very low salary and it is probably due to the economy of your home country. They have folks living in tents and in cramp conditions. Dyncorp has had issues with pay but i believe they have worked them out. Now if you have to pay someone to get this job then i don’t think that is fair. Depends on your job if 12,800 is worth it.
so you mean all the workers are living in tents? no dormitories to stay for? oh my god!
Most of them yes they are living in tents. Now you might get lucky to get a room but nope don’t let them fool you, folks start off in tents and move to containers where you will have a room mate and have to walk to the showers or using the rest rooms. Young lady it is rough living over there and i would think long and hard about this before committing. I know Ms Sparky is full of it sometimes but i believe we agree on something and right now it is rough in Afghanistan. Again Good luck.
I also have a couple of good friends that work there in afghanistan, one for fluor and the other Dyncorp if you have anymore questions please do not hesitate to ask and i will get answers for you if you want if not no worries.
$12,800.00 annually but i don’t believe if they do pay me in exact amount of $1,066.00 monthly. well i never believe on them anymore. Thanks for pieces of advice. more power! god bless!
ms sparky,i am scared for all the issues abt dyn corp. i applied in their company and i am confused bec i am thinking if i will be there then my families will be starving if i don’t recieve my monthly salaries in dyn comp and no comfortable plce to stay there. in the contract they promise good things such as offering us of high salary 12,800 annually salary which is should be pretty nice but i am really scare of all the issues abt it. pls help me what to do. thanks and keep in touch. my email is prosanna19@yahoo.com
Rosanna – What have they hired you to do?
they hired me as laundry attendant. they promised me to give laptop for me to use after work. i asked questions to them if they will pay me in accordance to what they offer me, if how hrs do i need to work in a day, if i do have day off? but no reply at all. what they only promise is to have free board and lodging. my question is do we have a safe place to stay their as ofw’s? if filipino workers will live in tents then i will cancel all my transactions with them
You will be living in a tent to start off unless they give you a room when you arrive. They probably meant they will have a computer for you to email your family. i don’t think they give laundry attendants computers for personal use. I would wait for answer to your questions. I am sure Sparky will give you good guidance. Good Luck.
i am very thankful for all the the advices you had given me. now i can picture myself if i would still continue to go there in US military base in Afghan. it’s good you are God’s gift to all mankind to give the best advices to all people who likes seek support from you. so, i decided then not to continue sending all my documents to them so that i will not be another victim to them. could you please help me in looking for a job please? i want to be a nanny in other countries. can you please recommend me to your friends if they are in need of nanny? i know that you are a kindhearted person to help anyone who needs help. thanks again and more power! hope you are in good health always! GOD bless you!
ATTENTION HEAD OF DYNCORP IN AFGHANISTAN :
Dear Sir,
We would like to inform you that we are selected candidates for Afghanistan for the Sodexo Company to work with the U.S.ARMY in catering section at Kandahar. The sodexo company has given manpower requirement to the Manpower Consultants. The Manpower consultants name is Premier Consultants. The Manpower consultants is charging 20,000 Indian Rupees for joining SODEXO company in Afghanistan. We are poor we can not pay the charges to the Premier Agency. We request you to talk with the Manpower Consultants and tell him not to charge the candidate at all. The phone no. of Manpower consultant is +912228891628 and +912228891627.
Also discuss this matter with the SODEXO company HR Director not to charge anything to the poor candidate selected for Afghanistan.
God bless you and your family.
Thanking you in anticipation,
( Candidates selected for Afghanistan )
Sounds like a scam….
does anyone have a recruiter for Aecom, they have opened alot of positions or do you know anyone who works for Aecom, they must have a new contract.
thanks for this site
AECOM is in final negociations the same as US4 for the KBOSSS contract in Kuwait. US4 has the upper hand as they have the former CSA guy who kicked off the original CSA contract gettin er dun. AECOM has a chance as….now wait for it……they are CSA in a different name. CSA could not rebid with the same 3 partmners so 2 of the companies split off and formed AECOM….just news for thinking…especially if you currently work for CSA or know someone who works for them.
Also….Rosanna, I would not go there to Afgan….there is just too much wrong with DynCorp to go there for me. Everyone has to make a choice and mine would be chicken or pasta before Afgan. Of course I am tainted as I work for KBR, but I have several friends and a couple people who worked for me in Kuwait and Iraq said the conditions are harsh for Dyn Corp since the transition. Be careful if you go and just take care.
OP
Some of your information is not quite correct.
CSA was Joint Venture of which AECOM was the Major partner.
However, 2 companies didd not split off and form AECOM. AECOM has been a large governent contractor for years and has been in existencee for over 20 years. AECOM is traded on the US Stock Exchange (ACM).
The decision was consciously made not to bid under the CSA entity – because of multiple DOJ investigations way back in 2008.
BTW so you are aware US4 is a joint venture formed to bid on the KBOSS contract. The members of the JV are KBR, Northrup Grumman, and Chenega Corporation.
Nikki – if AECOM does win – they will just transfer over all of the current CSA employees.
Yep – they were being investigated for charging the government for uplift and then not paying the employees the uplift. I was at Arifjan when the feds raided the offices and was going through all the books and records. Yep – I know all about US4 as I know several of the key players who will be coming over to work for the company…Im not a blind blithering idiot.
Oh OP
It was never my intention to imply that you were any of that. Just pointed out the US4 connection since no one else seemed to.
I absolutely can not believe that after all the stuff CSA pulled the client would entertain AECOM – they know for a fact that it will be the same as CSA – but then again – the client does actually like them – its just the employees that had a problem with them – that and the fact that they inflated the costs on that Cost Reinbursable contract through the roof – and hopefully the final contract audit will result in some repayments.
Who’s offices did they raid?
CSA’s offices. I was at Arifjan getting my Arifjan access badge redone and I heard several CSA employees talking about the raid by the feds. Also they black SUVs all over Arifjan and people loading bankers boxes into them was a pretty good sign.
then how do i get on with CSA, i have applied for them as well
Nikki
Take it from someone that has worked for this company – you do not want to.
As a heads up to everyone – I have heard from friends who are in HR Mgt positions with all three of the big LCIV contractors that due to the competition of Frim Fixed Price Task Orders as well as the current unemployment situation in the US, all three have significantly reduced the pay scales for new hires – as much as 40%.
It appears that gone are the days making 2 to 3 times a normal US salary on LCIV.
I was told by one company that the max they were going to pay the PM’s from now on was $30 an hour base.
So it is not surprising that they are now pulling bait and switch on outstanding offer letters.
I find it hard to believe that those overpaid PM’s are going stand for such a pay decrease. If it happens I’ll buy you a beer! The Principal Program Managers are making almost $30K PER MONTH!!! I’m sure those wages are not going to go down much!
Note that I said NEW HIRES – I agree with you that the fat cats are not going to put up with this – but then again it could have something to do with the mass exodus of PM’s and PGM’s recently.
Sir, I got offer from Dyncorp international for afgan operation. The sender is
Mr. Michael Wilson
Head Operation Manager,
DYNCORP INTERNATIONAL AFGHAN OPERATION.
#2-24 Kensington High Street London W8 4PT.
Tel: +447024017965
Email: dyncorprecruit.afgha@gmail.com?
Web site; http://www.dynacorpsinc.com
Now i want to know that is it genuin consultant please advice.
It’s a SCAM!! Please read this post
http://mssparky.com/2010/03/scam-alert-logcap-recruiting-scams/
Number 1 thing that tells me it’s fake is the spelling of the company name in the web address.
It is not dynacorps. Dyncorp
I was just recently offered positions with both DynCorp and CSA. CSA may drag the hiring process on, so I am looking into DynCorp. The position is for Movement Control Coordinator in Kandahar. Can anyone tell me what are the living conditions there, for folks with clearances? When I asked a recruiter, I caught him off-guard and couldn’t get two words out of him about that. Also, in the offer letter, I was given amount I would be making per hour based on the 40-hour a week. I know most work 12 hrs a day /7 days a week, but there wasn’t any farther breakdown in the letter. Here what it said: “Your base pay is based on a 40 hour work week. You will be required to work overtime hours at straight time rates during the period of the contract. In accordance with Department of Defense regulations, while in mission, you will receive post differential and hazardous duty pay.”
Do they need to indicate exactly what those haz duty pay will be and show me what the actual amount I will see per year/ in each check?
Thank for your help!
Just because the position says Kandahar, doesn’t mean you will be working in Kandahar. If you are needed at one of the FOBs, that’s where you will go. That is probably why the recuiter doesn’t know about the living conditions. Also, most of the recruiters have never had boots on the ground in Afghanistan so they can’t really comment intelligently about the living conditions. If you have questions like that, you can contact the person in Afganistan that interviewed you. They can vary GREATLY outside of Kandahar. Everyone inprocesses through Kandahar and they determine where you will be needed the most. FOBs can vary from tent living to CHUs, larger or smaller than Kandahar, and the ameneties (ie: PX, retail stores, laundry services, etc.). I’m living in a single occupancy CHU in Kandahar working for Dyncorp, but not all people are that lucky. Some are still in tents, some are in CHUs (singles or doubles and sometimes more if you are in transition). Hazard pay and post differential are 35% each, but the calculation is kinda funky. I would ask them to provide the yearly compensation number and in my case it was correct. Conditions seem to be getting better albeit slowly. We do get rocket attacks here and some of the FOBs are a little hot at the moment. There are still tons of things, processes, and people that frustrate the hell out of me here, but then I look at my paycheck and I smile…
Thanks for the comment. I was never interviewed for the position. Just gave them my resume, which outlined the similar job I was doing in Iraq as military. When recruiters are hiring, I would assume that they SHOULD know what is it they are trying to sell to people…I had conference calls with both CSA and KBR, and at least they tried to explain or give a general idea.
I spent a little over year in Bagram, a while back. Is Kandahar anything what Bagram is like? I understand I shouldn’t assume about Kandahar being the end station, and may go to other FOBs, but want to find out general information. Does Kandahar have lots of workers from Kyrgyzstan working for AAFES, like Bagram?
Please don’t believe in Dr. Alexander W. Stephen. It is a fraud. Please look at the letter he email me.
Human Resource Department,
Dynacorps International Afghan Operation.
467 Malton Ave, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 4QU
Tel: +447-045-778-132. Fax: +447-005-938-603.
Web site: http://www.dynacorpsinternational.co.cc
Attn: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
It is of utmost importance to inform you that after the screening and scrutiny of your Curriculum Vitae with other verification procedures carried out, DynaCorps International Afghan Operation, were able to resolve the status of your application along with our esteemed candidates traveling to Afghanistan in support of the British/NATO troops in Kabul.
On this note, we hereby congratulate you on the success of your application and as such we have attached to you the Offer Letter/Terms of Agreement that transcends any written document along with Afghanistan Visa Application Form which you will have to fill and forward back to us if the terms of this contract is suitable with you and as well the signed copy of your Agreement. We also require a scanned copy of your recent passport photo for your Afghan operations ID.
You are therefore required to follow these procedures IMMEDIATELY so as to complete your employment formalities:
You are required to contact Allan Chambers & Solicitors for the processing of your Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism from the British Crown Court. The Hard Copies of your Contract Documents have been forwarded on your behalf to the Law Firm, and you are advised to contact him with you full information as indicated in the offer letter.
Chamber: Allan Chambers
Address: 124a High Street, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 1JQ
Email: robert@allan-chambers.com
Name: Sir Robert Spiff
Tel: +44-704-577-9682
Fax: +44-844-774-8127
You are required to furnish us copy of Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism from the British High Court within 10 working days, via email or Fax so that we can present them to the Authorities so as to get approval for the processing of your Visa/work permits and arranging your Flight Ticket. All clarifications regarding this should be sent to this department because it might not be treated outside this department.
We hereby once more congratulate you on the success of your application amongst many that have applied and thereby instruct you to expedite all requirements as aforementioned so as to be able to meet up before the deadline.
Congratulations once more.
Regards,
Dr. Alexander W. Stephen
Human Resource Manager.
And the contract salary is very very suspicious, they will give me $29, 900/month. After signing the contract and sent it to Dr. Alexander W. Stephen, he emailed this acknowledgment:
Human Resource Department,
Dynacorps International Afghan Operation.
467 Malton Ave, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 4QU
Tel: +447-045-778-132. Fax: +447-005-938-603.
Web site: http://www.dynacorpsinternational.co.cc
Attn: XXXXXXXXX
This is to acknowledge the receipt of the documents you sent in.
Be informed that your Afghan Operations I.D will be out by Tuesday latest and we hope to receive the Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism soon to enable us get all the papers for travel and authorizations. As such we have notified the Allan Chambers that you have accepted the offer and is ready to join.
Once you have acquire the said documents from the them, we will then finish the procedures from here.
Regards,
Dr. Alexander W. Stephen
Human Resource Manager.
Then Robert Spiff emailed me:
ALLAN CHAMBERS & SOLICITORS
(SENIOR ADVOCATE OF BRITAIN)
BARRISTERS AND SOLICITORS-AT-LAW
124a High Street, Slough, Berkshire, SL1 1JQ
Phone: +44-702-407-8940. Fax: +44-844-774-8127
Email: robert@allan-chambers.com
———————————————————–
Addressed To:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Job Ref Code: PG/99A/510Q BA
Requirements for Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism
We are in receipt of your application for the processing of Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism from the British High Court. The Hard Copies of your contract letter has been filed also for this purpose. Therefore all procured documents will be mailed to you in completion of the process alongside your traveling documents.
You are require to send the below to us via e mail attachment.
1. Scan copy of your international Passport.
2. Your Contact address where all hard copies will be sent to.
3. Filled Application Form
4. Procurement & Documentation fees £480.00
5. Service charge £100.00
Kindly transfer the total amount £580.00 GBP(Five Hundred and Eighty British Pounds) via Western Union Money Transfer to the attention of Sir Robert Spiff and return the transfer slip or MTCN control number to us via e-mail.
Your (Active Secret UK Security Clearance/Affidavit of Oath for Terrorism from the British High Court) will be ready in 3 working days upon the confirmation of the above requirements.
Note: Before you proceed with requirement 4&5 ensure that all other requirements are ready. Also ensure that the name which you used in making the Payment corresponds with the name filled in the Attached Form, if not the British Crown Court will not accept the forms for further processing.
Yours in Service,
SIR ROBERT SPIFF
SENIOR ATTORNEY AND SOLICITOR.
OMG! 580 Euros for processing and other fee!
Please don’t send any money to this liars!
Yes. This is a SCAM. I hope you didn’t send him your personal info such as SS# etc. Check out this post.
http://mssparky.com/2010/03/scam-alert-logcap-recruiting-scams/