What a mess this whole LOGCAP contract has been. LOGCAP III has been plagued with fraud and corruption, electrocution deaths, toxin exposures, over charging, indictments, rapes, convictions, Congressional hearings, law changes, contractor deaths and countless law suits against KBR……the list is endless!!
I think most of us were relieved when LOGCAP IV in Kuwait and Afghanistan was awarded to Fluor and Dyncorp. Personally I was anxious to get this whole KBR disaster put in the past but that doesn’t seem to be happening.
I’m asking those of you in the field with Dyncorp, Fluor and KBR in Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq to let us know what is going on.
What do you think is the hold up with the transition? You guys are the ones who really know what’s going on….share it with us.
If you make a comment about a specific company please be sure to post the company name, country and camp if you can.
There are a lot of people out there looking for answers.
As of the publishing of this post….I don’t think any major LOGCAP IV Task Orders have been awarded in Iraq. If I’m wrong let me know.
I’m looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
Ms Sparky
Fluor just starter posting Iraq they may send transition team there
I am just mad i can’t get my stuff still ther
I would say you stuff might be gone just like mine dissapeared after I demobed from KBR. They contacted me and never sent the missing items.
How are they bypassing Bosnians having CAC cards? It is my understanding that both American nationals and foreign national must have one. The only difference in the cards is the color of the stripe that is across the front of them. Americans have one with a green stripe and foreign nationals have one with a blue stripe. If they don’t have CAC cards what type of identification will they have?? Correct me if I am wrong but without a CAC card they will not have access to anything on the bases. How will this work?
Foreign nationals i believe have light blue stripe and US has the Green. But now they do not issue them to Foriegn nationals due to the background check that is required by the US Govt. Not sure what they are using but they are not suppose to be issuing CAC Cards to foreign Nationals maybe Afghanistan is different.
You are right they quit issuing CAC cards to non-US passport holders. The FN’s are using their LOA for ID to access dining halls. Foreign nationals CAC card used to have a red stripe on it, but as they expire they are not being reissued. They also can no longer use the post office. They are not suppose to be able to use the PX, but that is not being enforced. There is a sign on the door of PX stating that if you are not in uniform you must present CAC card.
I think the only badge they’re allowed is the MNFI
yes they have CAC cards.
That is what I thought. If they can get one issued why is it that they are using the excuse that they can’t get them issued for Americans?? It is just another excuse to use foreign workers to fill most of the positions. I am sure that it is good for the economy of all the other countries to have their people working there but what about the economy of the country that is footing the bill. We need jobs as bad as anyone. Something is not right about using foreign labor to support our troops when we have the highest unemployment rate that this country has seen since the 80′s. We outsource everything to foreign countries for cheaper labor. At what cost to the U.S. citizens??? Lower quality goods and services, lost jobs, etc. Get real, it that really helping any of us???
I beg to differ with you Flour Foremen. They are not being issued during processing in the states, and once they expire they are not being reissued.
well I know the CAC system keeps going down I know people still in Greenville since August
because CAC keeps going down. I was luck when I got mine done.
when will fluor be taken over the Dfac
That is crazy, since August??? Something in the milk isn’t clean.
Transition in BAF with Dyna taking
oveer KBR is going smooth. Dyna has
taken over O&M, Warehouse, Mwr, Motor Pool,
Provider and etc.
KBR moving out, but still brining new
recruits thru to the FOB’s.
George
I went to workatfluor.com to do the virtual recruiter thing and the application read “not available at this time” I was looking forward to atleast chatting with a recruiter so i can sell my resume…ive already applied to numerous positions but does anyone know if fluor will be having a jobfair or atleast have recruiters at a job fair? Thats how i got my job with Lear-siegler
and also ive searched for a contact number through and through to no avail…
keep trying it is probably overloaded at the moment
yes things are going smooth, we have ITT running the class 1 and ssa yards,
MWR and DFAC are not for next month
O&M is not until the end of March at least HVAC
and we are going to have our work cut out
i have seen some screwed up stuff
Is ITT taking over SSA, Class I , and other warehouse operations in BAF or are they actually under Fluor and not the subcontractor ITT?
By the way we just had a fire and almost lost the warrior camp DFAC. we are going to TI the DFAC in the next few days
Fire?? What caused the fire? Electrical?
Two days ago some guys from Materials were talking about a man who demobed a few months ago while on RnR. In April of this year KBR sent out a email stating we could demob while being home instead of returning to Dubai to demob. This man who demobed this way applied to Fluor and he had an email that said KBR terminated him. How low can you go KBR? Well, I also asked a guy I know who transitioned about the final plane ticket that KBR is suppose to provide as is stipulated in the contract agreement. He said no ticket. The first paper they make you sign is a waiver to that ticket or you go to Dubai and reapply with Fluor and lose your verbal offer position with Fluor.
Is there anyway legally can we fight this. Time is short and it is a holiday season. heelp!
KBR keeps finding ways to screw over people and to leave a sour taste in their mouths.
What is KBR doing with the money from this last half of the ticket that we were supposed to get?
Speaking of Dubai. How does KBR charge the US government when they put 2 people in a room at the Hallmark or 4 to a room at the Star Metro when we only stay there sometimes for only a quick shower before we must leave for the meeting to catch the charter. The say it is madatory to sign for the rooms.
The PM in Bagram also refused to let Linda from Operations go to Afghan 1. She was hired on with the new low KBR payscale. She would have doubled her pay if she went. Instead KBR sent a laborer to Afghan 1 who is from the states. I am all for letting US workers get ahead but this guy they sent is from Bosnia originally. Fair and equitable is not in the KBR ethics book I think. Then again it was the PM who over ruled this so maybe it was not KBR. I am trying to be fair here. We all know who that may be in bagram.
I am just wondering if the DCMA and?or the DCAA will look into what I blogged about. It appears that NCIS has a better record on doing things about these bad apples that KBR has and the DCMA ignores the contract violations. Too bad. I hope all this will change
When I demobed from home I was on my EOC… Even if I showed up at Dubai, I still wouldn’t have gotten paid. I would have to have shown up at BIAP to get paid. Reasoning from KBR, I went home early on my EOC, my actual EOC date was the day I should have went on vacation. So if you’re going to demob REGARDLESS of the RR (1,2,EOC) Leave theater with KBR on your actual R/R eligibility date. Its all in the paperwork. I didn’t argue. Its not worth it really. So instead of getting paid the two weeks I worked, I got paid $50. KBR took the money from the advances I did prior to RR, they “reimbursed me” for the flight home. But not the flight back. I have a ticket to go back to Dubai. Thankfully, I got a call just yesterday from KBR on coming back. I really believe that they’re going to do a PAR in February or March… So we’ll see how it goes.
In regards to Raul on Fluor, the virtual recruiter does work. I’ve gotten numbers for Fluor recruiters, but I could never get someone to answer the phone. Instead when I got on, I used my “candidate number” and then “messaged” with a person who redirected me to a recruiter. The recruiter asked me if I was interested in billeting, said they would call me for an interview. Hasn’t happened yet. I say your best bet is the virtual recruiter, secondly keep trying. They schedule when they’re on. Don’t give up.
There was a all hands meeting on 20 Dec 2009 in Jalalabad. It appears that there are some disgruntled managers within KBR as it relates to Fluor. It was stated that KBR did not lose the contract for Logcap IV but that it was poilitical. I guess he was not familiar with the Judges decision about KBR as it pertains to Kuwait. Well KBR was told they were forbidden to bid there. It was also stated that Fluor cannot do it as good as KBR. That the transition should be transparent to the client, that KBR may be back. It was also stated that we are here for the soldiers which I totally agree with. Why some of the pin prick attacks on Fluor at this point in time? One can guess but time will tell. Maybe it is because the good ole boy system is being broken up, hmm? Or could it be one is dis-satisfied with the position one has with Fluor?
raul, make sure you convert your time to there time, last tuesday it was at 8 a.m in the morning texas time.I signed in and 7min later i was with a rec. two days later i had paper work.If you have lic or cert. make sure you tell them that and able to provide it to them. you will have to do somethings your self in your town. good luck
Is Class I under Fluor or the subcontractor ITT in BAF?
yes ITT runs the class 1 and SSA YARD
KBR managers complaining about politics, and being kicked to the curb! G. Dubya and Dix C. aren’t around anymore to protect them. KBR doesn’t have the qualified Construction Management or accredited Design talent at Bagram and the Army knows it. This is not including the numerous excuses for shoddy workmanship and dirty tricks to cover up their tracks while they blame the other guy. If they were breaking up the good old boy system it would be front-page news and might read something like this:
News Flash; KBR and Fluor have agreed to hire union trained journeyman and accredited design professionals for Afghanistan. Others need not apply.
Does anyone has any information abut Fluor Corporation Recruiters, when they will be in Kosovo?
Sincerely,
Marsi
are the recruiters recruiten Dfac workers yet
Fluor has a dozen or so DFAC jobs on their website.
I am an Ex-KBR/SEIII/LOGCAP III DFAC Worker/BAF 2004-2005.
I found mssparky.com last year, and I have been hooked ever since. Thank you for the site MSSparky.
I have a question:
I have been posting to jobs religiously on every site I can find, but I have had no response, until just a few days ago from what I think is a Fluor recruiter although some things didn’t add up.
So heres my question: I’m not sure if its OK to post the recruiters name, but she said she is located in my state of Florida not too far from where I live. Can anyone tell me if Fluor hires recruiting sub-contractors to do their hiring? Also, I was declined the job? She said that Fluor hires experienced employees only. How much more experience do I need when I was in Bagram, Afghanistan Dragon DFAC working everyday 16 hours a day 7 days a week, Hmmm?
Was she requiring any kind of payment? I would stick to the Big 3′s websites. Too many scams going on out there. Go to http://www.logcap4jobs.com and have Bruce take a look at your resume. I have been getting great feedback from people. He’s a former KBR/Fluor HR guy.
And….thanks for the great compliment!
Ms. Sparky:
You’re Welcome
That’s the thing…She didn’t ask for payment. She was responding to a job I applied to on workatfluor.com. She critiqued my resume, and asked a few questions concerning operating procedure manuals, menu cards, rations, food safety, sanitation, how many people we served per day, headcount Etc. Which I told her I am familiar with and added extra info I thought she may have over looked, that anyone working in the DFACS would know. I’m Stumped………
I will email my resume to Bruce as you suggested and see what he has to say. Thank you so much for the info.
No problem. Keep me posted.
Ok, Thanks again.
Actually, Dragon I think you need to be very leary of this person. Based on the type of questions you say she was asking it sounds like a company trying to gather information to submit a bid as a food services provider on a subcontract.
Those are not the type of questions a recruiter would normal ask especially procedures manuals, and menu’s.
Bruce – do you want to weigh in on this one.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. But I needed to make sure. I looked up her name on the internet specifically sunbiz.org where she has her own consulting company. I also looked at linkedin.com where it does say that she is a recruiter although it doesn’t say for which company, it only says her location is in Ft. Lauderdale/Miami. She also may be linked to a construction Co. of some sort but I can’t verify yet.
Thank you so much for your in-put.
Re your question regarding Fluor subing out their recruiters – that is a NO all of their recruiters for Fluor jobs are located in Greenville, SC.
I thought so. The weird thing is that her return email address had her name @fluor.com with fluors mailing address underneath her signature. weird
I concur. It sounds like a phishing scheme, but not being a Certified Ethical Hacker or a Certified Information System Security Professional, I can offer no speculation or conjecture on how someone could accomplish using an email address complete with a bogus Fluor extension, and to what end.
Well the hiring manager usually contacts the manager in country or vice versa concerning the people they want. Like i have mentioned before if they don’t know you or if some of there workers on ground cannot vouch for you they will not hire you. That is just the way it is right, things are in dire straits right now and they need people they can count on in the pinch ie sleeping in a tent with 200 other folks and know you are there for the long haul. They have alot people who arrive there and then say i am out of here due to the fact they have to walk to the shower, wear the same clothes a few days in a row and the laundry not being done everyday. I had it explained to me that it was not a cake walk. They also ask you on the fluor site if you are willing to work in the dire straits. People are quitting everyday due to non payment or living conditions. I hope that helps, even if you were there in 2004-2005. They hire who they want to hire. You can’t change that part unfortunately. Some say it is not right to do that but in away i can see the reasoning behind it.
Ksniper:
yes, I am aware of all that. I got the job through a friend in 04′. Back then, I got an email directly from a KBR recruiter on site in BAF, and a few days following that I got a call from a recruiter in Houston. He asked me the appropriate questions, then 2 weeks later I was in Houston going through in-processing. I was there living under primitive conditions. I was in a tent before being transfered to a hooch where I had multiple women in both and I slept on a cot while others got beds. I walked to the showers in the snow even when there was only cold water and sometimes there wasn’t any water at all to shower with, I wore dirty wet clothes at times, dragged my 50 lb. kevlar ensamble to work when required. Delt with all the KBR harrasment. Stood on my feet for 16+ hours a day working in the Dragon DFAC and they were raping women back then too. Nothing has changed. About the best one can do is to be on alert of your surroundings and do your job correctly.
The thing is, with this recruiter, She said she was located in Florida? Does that mean that Fluor is subcontracting their recruiters?
Fluor is in S. Carolina?
No way is Fluor subcontracting recruiters.
Does anyone have contacts to Fluor or Dyncorp recruiter. I’m a Veteran, my resumes are up and I’m ready to go.
I agree with you Mr. Sniper. It is what it is.
Back when I first got to Arifjan in Feb of ’03, we were having Scud missile drills where we’d all put on our MOPP gear; there was a bus load of new hires which just happened to arrive as we were parading by them on our way to the bunkers, and a portion of them were so mortified, that following the drill they refused to get off the bus and demanded to be taken back to the airport – and I mean, “RIGHT NOW DAMNIT”! We laughed our, well, you know what I mean – we got a pretty good chuckle out of it.
And you’re dead-on about the living conditions and it’s contribution toward the turnover rate.
The project in Afghanistan is a whole new beast from the sustainment mode it was in prior to the transition, and right now it is one gigantic Charlie Foxtrot, certainly not for those individuals who need their creature comforts, a clean place to live, a quiet place to sleep, “personal space”, and all of the other basic amenities that suddenly become luxuries nowhere to be found in the daily grind of LOGCAP.
Hey whose got the ttm contract in IRAQ
To the best of my knowledge, that Task Order (CPT) has not been awarded. Rumor on the street is it will go to Fluor. But…know can be sure until it is announced. I will blog it ASAP when I find out about it!
how does itt pay ? after Reviewing some other articles I believe ITT got the transportation side of the contract. dag the bad luck!!! if it is it is so who knows
I am interested in returning to the middle east or afganistan but I keep hearing from friends of mine that are there that the contractors are hiring more from the Balkans than America? I guess it will be just like KBR was. It’s the hire Balkans first?
It’s called profit margin. Insurgent. Everyone thinks KBR is that bad guy, but the other contractors just perfected what KBR started. But oh well the military is going to find out the hard way by throwing KBR under the bus. It is already reflecting in Afghanistan. More to come later.
Does Dyncorp hires green card holder/Us Permanent Resident?
I was just called by a recruiter for DynCorp for a position in Afghanistan. Does anyone know how their processing goes? I have worked with KBR in the past just wondered if anyone had any info regarding DynCorp’s processing.
I will get you in touch with someone.
Hi Ron,
Do you know the name of the person who contacted you from Dyncorp to work in Afghanistan? I’d be really interested to get in touch.
Thanks in advance.
Can anyone give details on what the Dyncorp Employment Package is.
Dyn Corp’s package is not that good compared to everyone else over here, that is their LOGCAP O&M jobs. They are hiring mostly foreign nationals. Their R&R policy sucks, you get 3, but one of them is an “in theater”, which means that you don’t go home. Dyn Corp has some good contracts over here for Americans. Try the AFCAP program or they were just awarded the training contract. Another thing Dyn Corp was awarded the South in Afghanistan, Fluor the North. There is alot less fighting in the North right now, and neither of the new contractors pay for bunker time.
Rob if you want to email me at ron.fenn@yahoo.com I will give you the recruiters email address…..I am in processing in Fort Worth Texas right now. I should be deploying for Afghanistan by this weekend.
thanks
Are the contract workers still living in 8-10 man B-huts and tents in Afghanistan???
Because of the surge and the transition many are living in 200+ man tents.
So when you go there be prepared for shared living.
I was Afghanistan before a few years back and lived in a tent then lived in a B-hut for kbr. I was hoping that the living conditions would have gotten better. But that’s life hopefully I will going there shortly…I can’t believe all the people that are wanting to go now. I guess the economy must be pretty bad..LOL…
Yes they are and yes..be prepared to share! BAF housing is like putting ioolbs. of sugar into a 5lb bag…
LOL, i am sure they are there for the money nick, so i hope those guys do not decide to demob because if so they probably have to pay there way home.
At KAF transition into 3 mos, since I transitioned to DI, no organization per say, sleeping EX PAT and TCN 24 per tent, double
twin beds. Have moved tents 5 times in 3 months and expecting another move.
Expecting 600 more or so TCN’s
TCN’s cannot get clearances. Cannot go to eat and the meals are being brought to the shops.
No sanitary conditions, running out of food at noon and breakfast. Locals eating free too.
G
Does anyone have recruiter contacts for Fluor, Dyncorp, or any other company. I’m a veteran and want to work Down range all replies welcome thank you.
U DIDNT LEAVE UR EMAIL SAMUEL
Does anyone know who will get the services part of the contract? ie MWR, laundry,..etc
I am hearing in Tikrit that Fluor will get the services contract in a couple of months….I also hear we are losing one of our DFACs…what going on in the C sites?
No Request for Proposals for a LCIV TO has been issued for this tasking in Iraq. Since the Government must first ask for proposals, then evaluate them, then award the TO – anything you are hearing regarding a particular company getting any work is just plain rumor.
They should be submitting the bids this month.
Thank K
I personally was sort of thinking that they would just extend LCIII in Iraq and leave it with KBR. Based on the amount of time it is taking to effect the transition in Afghanistan – I don’t see them actually changing the staus quo.
As stated in other posts on this site – does anyone want to take a bet on who gets Iraq?
If they do not extend LOGCAP III, it is very simple sail. LOGCAP IV says that each company may bid on all contracts, but can only be awarded one. Since KBR already has the CLS contract, they can’t be awarded another. Two more contracts, you do the math.
This all smacks of strong sustainability for job opportunites.
Ok everyone keeps bringing up this 1 contract thing. Can someone provide the specific clause – maybe I am blind but I just can’t seem to find it.
Can someone tell me where in the contract it actually states this because I have been unable to find it.
They are going to extend the BLS contract. After the mess in afghanistan i don’t think the commanders are going to go along with that. Extend the current BLS Contract until 2011. Fluor and Dynacorp will stay and try to figure out Afghanistan.
I believe I have discovered where this thought that a contractor can only get one TO is coming from. This is incorrect. I had to go back to the solicitation to find it.
We have to be careful of semantic here. The overall document is the CONTRACT. The individual work is issued on TASK ORDERS – NOT CONTRACTS.
Section L Instructions for Offerors (ON THE PRIME CONTRACT – NOT TO’s)
“An offeror may only beawarded one contract and cannot participate as a subcontractor, team member, or otherwise be affiliated with another offeror under this solicitation.”
Section L refers ONLY to the PRIME CONTRACT award – not the Task Order awards. There is a big difference. Additionally Sections L and M(evaluation factors) are not incorporated in to the contract they are for soliciation purposes only.
I have been unable to find any reference in the issued contract that states that a contractor can not be awarded multiple TASK ORDERS in a specific location.
I believe there are limitations with regard to the overall dollar amount that any single contractor can be awarded for LCIV, as well. Someone with access to that information feel free to chime in.
That is correct. As I posted earlier under the KBR LCIV TO AWARD
Section A Item 9
The maximum permitted on each LOGCAP IV performance contract is $5 billion per year.
hi ms sparky, can you tell me the procedures for getting rehired after a termination from kbr, i am trying to get back and it has been over 7 months, i am not flagged as a do not rehire but cant seem to get a call back, please advise
Hey Josie eamil me at mslgerman@yahoo.com. I know a recruiter there and I have a number. He could possibly help you.
thanks i appreciate it
Hello,
I have applied for numerous positions with KBR, FLUOR, and DYN CORP. I have only had luck with KBR, and I got my processing date pushed back from March 22, 2010 to April 5,2010. I believe that they may eventually rescend on their offer! Can you please provide me with the list of recruiters contact info from KBR, FLUOR, and/or DYN CORP!
Thank you,
Christopher
christopher_ad2003@yahoo.com
I recommend you send your resume to http://www.logcap4jobs.com and have Bruce take a look at it. He is a former KBR/Fluor HR specialist. Get that passport and all your business in order, be prepared to mobilize asap. Just keep trying.
i believe there is a fee for Bruce’s service,
Josie,
If you’d like, forward your resume and I will be more than happy to look it over, and then provide you with an absolutely free analysis which includes:
1. Letting you know right up front if your resume needs no improvement.
2. If there are areas within your resume which can be improved upon by performing some minor refinements yourself (I’ll let you know exactly what they are if any are identified).
Have nice day!
Thank you so much! What is your email address?
To check-out my site, go to http://www.logcap4jobs.com
You can email me at info@logcap4jobs.com.
You are most welcome!
Here is the email you send it to Christopher
info@logcap4jobs.com
Thank you so much! I just sent it to that email address! THANK YOU!
His help with my husbands resume got my husband his promotion. I advise that you send it. Thanks again Bruce!
AtDyncorp there are many recruiters-
LOGCAP and AFCAP?
I wwish find out who is handling AFCAP for Kuwait,Qatar,UAE etc.
Or a place to send email to receive referral as it would be difficult for a recruiter to place insight or name on lie.
Lee
If you are serious about AFCAP you need to start checking the jobs that IAP Worldwide Services is posting. Their RMS division was the single contractor before the MATOC was awarded. They are still receiving the majority of the the TO’s.
The Awardees for AFCAP are as follows
IAPWS/RMS
Dyncorp
URS
Ch2mHill/KBR
Washington Group
Additionally the Navy has a smaller contingency services contract GCSC. This contract was awarded to
Parsons
Dyncorp
Agility – no longer receiving task orders
As for Qatar ITT has the Basse Operating Services contract there.
In the UAE if you are interested KBR has a commercial job to build the bridge from Bahrin to Qatar. The base of the effort is in Bahrin.
Generally, when you apply on line which is the perfered method for all of these companies – your resume is then viewable by ALL recruiters – you might want to consider actually posting the asked for cover letter as well describing all of your interests and especially your job speciality. If you limit it to a specific position it may not make the rounds.
Hello everyone,
Can anyone tell me if FLUOR are hiring materials people from the states. Or, do we have to wait until the transition of KBR / FLUOR is complete. I am a prior KBR Senior Expediter with mad skills, but has had no luck getting re-hired.
Sometimes it seems like you need a Hollywood agent just to keep up, so, yes – I can appreciate what you’re saying about mad skills, and I agree. There is a lot of talent sitting idle, talent which could be put to good use. Economy’s in the tank or not, depending on who you listen to. “Wallstreet…They’ll buy ‘ya or sell ‘ya depending on what day of the week it is”, is the way I heard it put once.
I’ve been hearing the exact same sentiments to which you refer to, to one degree or another, and it’s from some very talented and very executive level professionals such as yourself. Players in the game. Just hanging-out with a cold one in their hand, waiting for a mission. Been there, done that. Now I’m done. Well, not done, just trying to help people looking to get back in. If one considers that when even a single grammatical error – one error in punctuation, can get you put on the sidelines, well, you can always benefit by some fresh eyes. I’m out.
This is just a thought – but it might help more people land the jobs they are looking for on LC.
Although there are Three Major Contractors, Fluor, KBR and DYN – that does not mean that these are actually the companies that are performinng or hireing for the type of job you are looking for.
As an example on LCIII KBR subcontracted out a great deal of the work – a lot of the vehicle maintenance for example was done by EG&G – the employees that did this work were recruited, hired and paid by these subcontractors.
Expanding your search beyond just the three Prime Contractors may result in you actually getting the position that you want.
You are awesome in your knowledge.
I’m a carpenter going to Greenville in a month for processing for Afghanistan.Does anyone have any info reg.housing,processing,food,nccer,etc..I’d be greatful for any help.
There is a forum that has some valuable info on that matter. I don’t know if I’m allowed to post external links here.
Proleter… You have my permission, pls post..
Be prepared for some very harsh conditions during the transition. The billeting manager is a friend –250 bunk beds in a LAM’s A for billeting–5 showers and latrines to share with the other 499.
Food is good on the smaller FOB’s. Travel light–maximum is one foot locker, PPE, and computer. Bring a lock–lots of thieves. Expect to sleep nose to nose( so to speak) with many nationalities. The big push right now is more Indians, Bosnians, Turks, Macedonians, Filipinos, Nigerian, ect. Be prepared.
Been there back home-
Wait a minute. Thank you for this insight but-who is pushing for Filipinos and others-and is this the company itself or is it t private contractor for Fluor or Dyncorp-name?
That would be the US Government Lee. The split of labor between US Expats and TCN’s fluctuates but is about 30% expat and 70% TCN. This is a money saving decission on the part of the Government. A number of TCN’s are employed directly by the contractors – some are subcontractor employees.
The big push right now if for more Bosnians and Indians–they work extremely cheap–More are not qualified–remember with all companies profit margin is the most important.
Which are the companies that hire TCN-Philippines, Kyrgyzstan, Chinese, Thailand nationals IAPWS/RMS, Dyncorp, URS Ch2mHill/KBR, Washington Group.KBR .Fluor? And or who knows the names of the sub-contractors that do so?
TCN’s are hired as direct hires by all three of the prime LCIV contractors.
The majority of the direct hire TCN’s are those that worked directly for at least one of the contractors in their homeland. At this time I believe that the majority of the Direct Hire TCN’s are from the Balkans.
A good number of the others are provided by Labor Brokers.
Please note that these employess make significantly less than the Expats and Direct Hire TCN’s and do not receive the same benefits.
The large majority of these people are Indain, Philippino and Suri Lankan. As far as I know there are no Chinese citizens working on these contracts as they would not be able to obtain visa’s from the Chinese Government to do so.
Please note, Thai nationals are prevented by their country to working on these contracts.
Since I do not have knowledge as to the subcontacts that these companies have executed I can not provide information regarding these companies. In the past the majority of these subcontracted companies – specifically for food service – were foreign companies and were hiring nationals from the country in which they were located.
What about processing in Greenville.How long after processing before you go wheels up?
You could be in Greenville anywhere from 10 days to 4-5 months
4-5 months? is that true or what?if so,why so long
The SF85 and Cac card issue. Also, you are sent after a requisition for a particular FOB is processed. In other words- you are being prepared, in case the need for your talent arises.