KBR, Dyncorp, Fluor and the LOGCAP IV transisition?

KBR PentagonWhat a mess this whole LOGCAP contract has been. LOGCAP III has been plagued with fraud and corruption, electrocution deaths, toxin exposures, over charging, indictments, rapes, convictions, Congressional hearings, law changes, contractor deaths and countless law suits against KBR……the list is endless!!

I think most of us were relieved when LOGCAP IV in Kuwait and Afghanistan was awarded to Fluor and Dyncorp. Personally I was anxious to get this whole KBR disaster put in the past but that doesn’t seem to be happening.

I’m asking those of you in the field with Dyncorp, Fluor and KBR in Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq to let us know what is going on.

What do you think is the hold up with the transition? You guys are the ones who really know what’s going on….share it with us.

If you make a comment about a specific company please be sure to post the company name, country and camp if you can.

There are a lot of people out there looking for answers.

As of the publishing of this post….I don’t think any major LOCAP IV Task Orders have been awarded in Iraq. If I’m wrong let me know.

I’m looking forward to hearing what you have to say.

Ms Sparky

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  1. Fluor Foreman says:

    Fluor just starter posting Iraq they may send transition team there

    I am just mad i can’t get my stuff still ther

    • Baboo Remembers says:

      I would say you stuff might be gone just like mine dissapeared after I demobed from KBR. They contacted me and never sent the missing items.

  2. Ex-KBR Wife says:

    How are they bypassing Bosnians having CAC cards? It is my understanding that both American nationals and foreign national must have one. The only difference in the cards is the color of the stripe that is across the front of them. Americans have one with a green stripe and foreign nationals have one with a blue stripe. If they don’t have CAC cards what type of identification will they have?? Correct me if I am wrong but without a CAC card they will not have access to anything on the bases. How will this work?

    • Ksniper says:

      Foreign nationals i believe have light blue stripe and US has the Green. But now they do not issue them to Foriegn nationals due to the background check that is required by the US Govt. Not sure what they are using but they are not suppose to be issuing CAC Cards to foreign Nationals maybe Afghanistan is different.

  3. CHICK says:

    I think the only badge they’re allowed is the MNFI

  4. Fluor Foreman says:

    yes they have CAC cards.

    • Ex-KBR Wife says:

      That is what I thought. If they can get one issued why is it that they are using the excuse that they can’t get them issued for Americans?? It is just another excuse to use foreign workers to fill most of the positions. I am sure that it is good for the economy of all the other countries to have their people working there but what about the economy of the country that is footing the bill. We need jobs as bad as anyone. Something is not right about using foreign labor to support our troops when we have the highest unemployment rate that this country has seen since the 80’s. We outsource everything to foreign countries for cheaper labor. At what cost to the U.S. citizens??? Lower quality goods and services, lost jobs, etc. Get real, it that really helping any of us???

  5. Fluor Foreman says:

    well I know the CAC system keeps going down I know people still in Greenville since August
    because CAC keeps going down. I was luck when I got mine done.

  6. CHICK says:

    That is crazy, since August??? Something in the milk isn’t clean.

  7. GEORGE says:

    Transition in BAF with Dyna taking
    oveer KBR is going smooth. Dyna has
    taken over O&M, Warehouse, Mwr, Motor Pool,
    Provider and etc.
    KBR moving out, but still brining new
    recruits thru to the FOB’s.
    George

  8. Raul.2484 says:

    I went to workatfluor.com to do the virtual recruiter thing and the application read “not available at this time” I was looking forward to atleast chatting with a recruiter so i can sell my resume…ive already applied to numerous positions but does anyone know if fluor will be having a jobfair or atleast have recruiters at a job fair? Thats how i got my job with Lear-siegler
    and also ive searched for a contact number through and through to no avail…

  9. Fluor Foreman says:

    keep trying it is probably overloaded at the moment

  10. Fluor Foreman says:

    yes things are going smooth, we have ITT running the class 1 and ssa yards,

    MWR and DFAC are not for next month
    O&M is not until the end of March at least HVAC
    and we are going to have our work cut out
    i have seen some screwed up stuff

    • Sharon says:

      Is ITT taking over SSA, Class I , and other warehouse operations in BAF or are they actually under Fluor and not the subcontractor ITT?

  11. Fluor Foreman says:

    By the way we just had a fire and almost lost the warrior camp DFAC. we are going to TI the DFAC in the next few days

  12. at a loss for words says:

    Two days ago some guys from Materials were talking about a man who demobed a few months ago while on RnR. In April of this year KBR sent out a email stating we could demob while being home instead of returning to Dubai to demob. This man who demobed this way applied to Fluor and he had an email that said KBR terminated him. How low can you go KBR? Well, I also asked a guy I know who transitioned about the final plane ticket that KBR is suppose to provide as is stipulated in the contract agreement. He said no ticket. The first paper they make you sign is a waiver to that ticket or you go to Dubai and reapply with Fluor and lose your verbal offer position with Fluor.
    Is there anyway legally can we fight this. Time is short and it is a holiday season. heelp!
    KBR keeps finding ways to screw over people and to leave a sour taste in their mouths.
    What is KBR doing with the money from this last half of the ticket that we were supposed to get?
    Speaking of Dubai. How does KBR charge the US government when they put 2 people in a room at the Hallmark or 4 to a room at the Star Metro when we only stay there sometimes for only a quick shower before we must leave for the meeting to catch the charter. The say it is madatory to sign for the rooms.

  13. at a loss for words says:

    The PM in Bagram also refused to let Linda from Operations go to Afghan 1. She was hired on with the new low KBR payscale. She would have doubled her pay if she went. Instead KBR sent a laborer to Afghan 1 who is from the states. I am all for letting US workers get ahead but this guy they sent is from Bosnia originally. Fair and equitable is not in the KBR ethics book I think. Then again it was the PM who over ruled this so maybe it was not KBR. I am trying to be fair here. We all know who that may be in bagram.

  14. at a loss for words says:

    I am just wondering if the DCMA and?or the DCAA will look into what I blogged about. It appears that NCIS has a better record on doing things about these bad apples that KBR has and the DCMA ignores the contract violations. Too bad. I hope all this will change

  15. CHICK says:

    When I demobed from home I was on my EOC… Even if I showed up at Dubai, I still wouldn’t have gotten paid. I would have to have shown up at BIAP to get paid. Reasoning from KBR, I went home early on my EOC, my actual EOC date was the day I should have went on vacation. So if you’re going to demob REGARDLESS of the RR (1,2,EOC) Leave theater with KBR on your actual R/R eligibility date. Its all in the paperwork. I didn’t argue. Its not worth it really. So instead of getting paid the two weeks I worked, I got paid $50. KBR took the money from the advances I did prior to RR, they “reimbursed me” for the flight home. But not the flight back. I have a ticket to go back to Dubai. Thankfully, I got a call just yesterday from KBR on coming back. I really believe that they’re going to do a PAR in February or March… So we’ll see how it goes.

    In regards to Raul on Fluor, the virtual recruiter does work. I’ve gotten numbers for Fluor recruiters, but I could never get someone to answer the phone. Instead when I got on, I used my “candidate number” and then “messaged” with a person who redirected me to a recruiter. The recruiter asked me if I was interested in billeting, said they would call me for an interview. Hasn’t happened yet. I say your best bet is the virtual recruiter, secondly keep trying. They schedule when they’re on. Don’t give up.

  16. amen says:

    There was a all hands meeting on 20 Dec 2009 in Jalalabad. It appears that there are some disgruntled managers within KBR as it relates to Fluor. It was stated that KBR did not lose the contract for Logcap IV but that it was poilitical. I guess he was not familiar with the Judges decision about KBR as it pertains to Kuwait. Well KBR was told they were forbidden to bid there. It was also stated that Fluor cannot do it as good as KBR. That the transition should be transparent to the client, that KBR may be back. It was also stated that we are here for the soldiers which I totally agree with. Why some of the pin prick attacks on Fluor at this point in time? One can guess but time will tell. Maybe it is because the good ole boy system is being broken up, hmm? Or could it be one is dis-satisfied with the position one has with Fluor?

  17. Smitty says:

    raul, make sure you convert your time to there time, last tuesday it was at 8 a.m in the morning texas time.I signed in and 7min later i was with a rec. two days later i had paper work.If you have lic or cert. make sure you tell them that and able to provide it to them. you will have to do somethings your self in your town. good luck

  18. Sharon says:

    Is Class I under Fluor or the subcontractor ITT in BAF?

  19. Fluor Foreman says:

    yes ITT runs the class 1 and SSA YARD

  20. Baboo Remembers says:

    KBR managers complaining about politics, and being kicked to the curb! G. Dubya and Dix C. aren’t around anymore to protect them. KBR doesn’t have the qualified Construction Management or accredited Design talent at Bagram and the Army knows it. This is not including the numerous excuses for shoddy workmanship and dirty tricks to cover up their tracks while they blame the other guy. If they were breaking up the good old boy system it would be front-page news and might read something like this:

    News Flash; KBR and Fluor have agreed to hire union trained journeyman and accredited design professionals for Afghanistan. Others need not apply.

  21. Marsi says:

    Does anyone has any information abut Fluor Corporation Recruiters, when they will be in Kosovo?

    Sincerely,
    Marsi

  22. Dillard says:

    are the recruiters recruiten Dfac workers yet

  23. avery hornbill says:

    Hey whose got the ttm contract in IRAQ

    • Ms Sparky says:

      To the best of my knowledge, that Task Order (CPT) has not been awarded. Rumor on the street is it will go to Fluor. But…know can be sure until it is announced. I will blog it ASAP when I find out about it!

  24. avery hornbill says:

    how does itt pay ? after Reviewing some other articles I believe ITT got the transportation side of the contract. dag the bad luck!!! if it is it is so who knows

  25. Insurgents Target says:

    I am interested in returning to the middle east or afganistan but I keep hearing from friends of mine that are there that the contractors are hiring more from the Balkans than America? I guess it will be just like KBR was. It’s the hire Balkans first?

    • Ksniper says:

      It’s called profit margin. Insurgent. Everyone thinks KBR is that bad guy, but the other contractors just perfected what KBR started. But oh well the military is going to find out the hard way by throwing KBR under the bus. It is already reflecting in Afghanistan. More to come later.

  26. sonic says:

    Does Dyncorp hires green card holder/Us Permanent Resident?

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