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	<title>Comments on: Fluor&#8217;s LOCAP IV offer for KBR employees in Afghanistan</title>
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		<title>By: nikki tortora</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-9020</link>
		<dc:creator>nikki tortora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree! Give the jobs to the Americans first! But my friends there is alot of loop holes out there.Besides,8 .8 on the reichter scale. It&#039;s all about politics.Do you know how to play?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree! Give the jobs to the Americans first! But my friends there is alot of loop holes out there.Besides,8 .8 on the reichter scale. It&#8217;s all about politics.Do you know how to play?!</p>
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		<title>By: nikki tortora</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-9019</link>
		<dc:creator>nikki tortora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E-mail is how it&#039;s done. It is alot of work but somehow yhou can manage to get a few out there via e-mails. Recuiters do respond faster,if you&#039;re lucky you&#039;ll numerous phone calls(interviews)! Good luck,ya&#039;ll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-mail is how it&#8217;s done. It is alot of work but somehow yhou can manage to get a few out there via e-mails. Recuiters do respond faster,if you&#8217;re lucky you&#8217;ll numerous phone calls(interviews)! Good luck,ya&#8217;ll.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Sparky</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-9010</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend you contact Senator Daniel Inouye and ask him to contact Secretary Gates and ask him to stop this ridiculous practice of giving American jobs away to foreigners. What exactly is this doing for the US economy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend you contact Senator Daniel Inouye and ask him to contact Secretary Gates and ask him to stop this ridiculous practice of giving American jobs away to foreigners. What exactly is this doing for the US economy?</p>
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		<title>By: GIJANE</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-9008</link>
		<dc:creator>GIJANE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MsSparky, I know me and among hundreds of other Americans are trying to wait for &quot;the call&quot; while recruiters goes to other country and give away positions like candies.  I think it is far double standards.  So what does it takes for people like me, other than a great resume with not just &quot;bullets&quot; of duties performed but with &quot;achievements&quot; to get noticed by recruiters?  Perhaps, changing my name into Balkan would kick it up a notch. I know someone who got hired because the recruiter lives in the same area as the candidate. Well, welcome to LOGCAP politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MsSparky, I know me and among hundreds of other Americans are trying to wait for &#8220;the call&#8221; while recruiters goes to other country and give away positions like candies.  I think it is far double standards.  So what does it takes for people like me, other than a great resume with not just &#8220;bullets&#8221; of duties performed but with &#8220;achievements&#8221; to get noticed by recruiters?  Perhaps, changing my name into Balkan would kick it up a notch. I know someone who got hired because the recruiter lives in the same area as the candidate. Well, welcome to LOGCAP politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Sparky</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-9007</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a valid point. But regardless of whether they are more or less qualified. The DoD should hire the people who will be filling their budgets with US tax dollars. The Bosnians or any other TCN won&#039;t! HIRE AMERICANS FIRST!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a valid point. But regardless of whether they are more or less qualified. The DoD should hire the people who will be filling their budgets with US tax dollars. The Bosnians or any other TCN won&#8217;t! HIRE AMERICANS FIRST!</p>
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		<title>By: GIJANE</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-9006</link>
		<dc:creator>GIJANE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that it is cost efficient for Fluor to hire Balkan personnel (no offense) but what about the people who have more credentials and experience than those people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that it is cost efficient for Fluor to hire Balkan personnel (no offense) but what about the people who have more credentials and experience than those people?</p>
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		<title>By: all hands</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8795</link>
		<dc:creator>all hands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The process is very different then LCIII, SF 85 required, and must be approved before one can deploy, it may take  50 days or 120 days after turned in  to process once you begin, I know a good resume helps, to get started, E mail is best for recuirters now cause of the work flow, nothing happens overnight, and i would keep my present job until i was sure everything was being done and completed timely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The process is very different then LCIII, SF 85 required, and must be approved before one can deploy, it may take  50 days or 120 days after turned in  to process once you begin, I know a good resume helps, to get started, E mail is best for recuirters now cause of the work flow, nothing happens overnight, and i would keep my present job until i was sure everything was being done and completed timely.</p>
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		<title>By: LogMaster</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8784</link>
		<dc:creator>LogMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matthew - It may be useful to check out another article and the accompanying comments and replies here:  http://mssparky.com/2010/02/resume-advice-for-logcap-job-seekers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matthew &#8211; It may be useful to check out another article and the accompanying comments and replies here:  <a href="http://mssparky.com/2010/02/resume-advice-for-logcap-job-seekers/">http://mssparky.com/2010/02/resume-advice-for-logcap-job-seekers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: matthewrivers</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8782</link>
		<dc:creator>matthewrivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello i worked for KBR as a rowpu operator and i did it in the Army but i applied for all water supply jobs but i havent had any luck does any one have any suggestions besides just keep applying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello i worked for KBR as a rowpu operator and i did it in the Army but i applied for all water supply jobs but i havent had any luck does any one have any suggestions besides just keep applying</p>
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		<title>By: Speicher Dude</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8365</link>
		<dc:creator>Speicher Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fluor is currently holding job fairs in the Balkans for future Afghaniland employees... Soooo, if you&#039;re thinking about how many TCN&#039;s are currently on LCIII; wait till you see whats in store for LCIV..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fluor is currently holding job fairs in the Balkans for future Afghaniland employees&#8230; Soooo, if you&#8217;re thinking about how many TCN&#8217;s are currently on LCIII; wait till you see whats in store for LCIV..</p>
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		<title>By: nikki tortora</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8325</link>
		<dc:creator>nikki tortora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Dejan...be patient! There is alot of people still waiting....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Dejan&#8230;be patient! There is alot of people still waiting&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dejan</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8322</link>
		<dc:creator>Dejan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same as KBR, but you know ... smarter, ... learned from KBR&#039;s mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same as KBR, but you know &#8230; smarter, &#8230; learned from KBR&#8217;s mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8256</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just know that you are not the only one...I’m in same situation like you ziddo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just know that you are not the only one&#8230;I’m in same situation like you ziddo</p>
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		<title>By: ziddo</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8157</link>
		<dc:creator>ziddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well everyone I must say that Never in a million years did I think it was going to be difficult in obtaining Employment in Afghanistan. &quot;Oh how I was Wrong&quot; I must have applied for nearing 40 req&#039;s with Fluor/Dyncorp/ITT and PAEGroup in the IT/Telecommunication field thus far to hear NOTHING.. This is very frustrating.. 

Does anyone have any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well everyone I must say that Never in a million years did I think it was going to be difficult in obtaining Employment in Afghanistan. &#8220;Oh how I was Wrong&#8221; I must have applied for nearing 40 req&#8217;s with Fluor/Dyncorp/ITT and PAEGroup in the IT/Telecommunication field thus far to hear NOTHING.. This is very frustrating.. </p>
<p>Does anyone have any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: nikki tortora</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8141</link>
		<dc:creator>nikki tortora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vision is not included with Fluors&#039; or how some call  it (Flour)?! FYI. Listen to&quot; all hands&quot;,above mentioned. Any and all contracting done in the ME will always have bumps and curves. Is there a perfect society? If we want to act stupid and arrogant and lack of respect,ethos in theater that&#039;s how you&#039;re going to get treated. Its a balancing act with a fine line of tuning? Practice this with all certifications and degrees. You are there to support &quot;Enduring Freedom&quot;! That entails EVERY aspect of logistics and infrastructure. Adapt and you&#039;ll be fine,especially the ones that have been there for some years. Again good luck in your quest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vision is not included with Fluors&#8217; or how some call  it (Flour)?! FYI. Listen to&#8221; all hands&#8221;,above mentioned. Any and all contracting done in the ME will always have bumps and curves. Is there a perfect society? If we want to act stupid and arrogant and lack of respect,ethos in theater that&#8217;s how you&#8217;re going to get treated. Its a balancing act with a fine line of tuning? Practice this with all certifications and degrees. You are there to support &#8220;Enduring Freedom&#8221;! That entails EVERY aspect of logistics and infrastructure. Adapt and you&#8217;ll be fine,especially the ones that have been there for some years. Again good luck in your quest!</p>
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		<title>By: Inquisitive Sort</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8132</link>
		<dc:creator>Inquisitive Sort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Logmaster what was your impression with the Fluor personnel and management.  Pro/Con or yet to be seen?  I enjoy your stories about your old experiences in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Logmaster what was your impression with the Fluor personnel and management.  Pro/Con or yet to be seen?  I enjoy your stories about your old experiences in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: al hands</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8131</link>
		<dc:creator>al hands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first as with any contractor you MUST have your resume on there web site, www.workatfluor.com, then listen and network the phone numbers are useless unless jobs posted, apply on line and try to get a live phone, it a long process, more so then KBR so don&#039;t jsut up and quit..otherwise your not treated like a &quot;private&quot; but are help accountable for your actions, good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first as with any contractor you MUST have your resume on there web site, <a href="http://www.workatfluor.com">http://www.workatfluor.com</a>, then listen and network the phone numbers are useless unless jobs posted, apply on line and try to get a live phone, it a long process, more so then KBR so don&#8217;t jsut up and quit..otherwise your not treated like a &#8220;private&#8221; but are help accountable for your actions, good luck</p>
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		<title>By: LogMaster</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-8130</link>
		<dc:creator>LogMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having recently departed Fluor as a member of the HR Transition Team in Afghanistan, I can tell you this in regard to your question regarding whether or not Fluor (or any other company for that matter) will choose to consider you as a candidate: it depends on the severity of the incident for which you were terminated. 

Having had access to literally thousands of confidential files, and in my experience as the (former) HR File Room Lead for KBR at Joint Base Balad (June 2008 to September 2009), I can tell you that terminations for a first time infraction of policies, procedures, rules or regulations, were the exception, rather than the rule.  

Usually, termination counseling’s were administered only after progressive disciplinary measures failed to make an impression sufficient enough to motivate the individual into voluntarily correcting their aberrant behavior, and acknowledge the expectation going forward, that they must conduct themselves in a manner which actively reflects  acceptance of personal accountability for their actions.  

In other words, people weren&#039;t usually fired for a first time infraction of policies unless the infraction rose to the level of being particularly egregious in some way, (i.e. physical assault, certain instances of creating a hostile work environment, etc.), or, a safety violation which resulted in the endangerment of their life or others.

I would say 99% of the termination counseling’s I witnessed were the result of more than just one isolated instance of a momentary lapse in judgment, but rather were the culmination of a continuing pattern of behavior.

There was one case however, of a gentleman (and I use the term loosely), who “voiced” his displeasure with the curriculum of the TTM School House, by stepping to the front of the class room, and in front of everyone in attendance, unceremoniously raised one cheek of his derriere toward the instructor whilst simultaneously releasing a violent stream of flatulence, and proclaimed in a tone fraught with contempt said, (and I quote), “THAT’S what I think of your class.” (All caps intentionally used for emphasis.) 

I wasn’t privy to the seating arrangements he chose upon his departure, post haste.

Visit me at logcap4jobs.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having recently departed Fluor as a member of the HR Transition Team in Afghanistan, I can tell you this in regard to your question regarding whether or not Fluor (or any other company for that matter) will choose to consider you as a candidate: it depends on the severity of the incident for which you were terminated. </p>
<p>Having had access to literally thousands of confidential files, and in my experience as the (former) HR File Room Lead for KBR at Joint Base Balad (June 2008 to September 2009), I can tell you that terminations for a first time infraction of policies, procedures, rules or regulations, were the exception, rather than the rule.  </p>
<p>Usually, termination counseling’s were administered only after progressive disciplinary measures failed to make an impression sufficient enough to motivate the individual into voluntarily correcting their aberrant behavior, and acknowledge the expectation going forward, that they must conduct themselves in a manner which actively reflects  acceptance of personal accountability for their actions.  </p>
<p>In other words, people weren&#8217;t usually fired for a first time infraction of policies unless the infraction rose to the level of being particularly egregious in some way, (i.e. physical assault, certain instances of creating a hostile work environment, etc.), or, a safety violation which resulted in the endangerment of their life or others.</p>
<p>I would say 99% of the termination counseling’s I witnessed were the result of more than just one isolated instance of a momentary lapse in judgment, but rather were the culmination of a continuing pattern of behavior.</p>
<p>There was one case however, of a gentleman (and I use the term loosely), who “voiced” his displeasure with the curriculum of the TTM School House, by stepping to the front of the class room, and in front of everyone in attendance, unceremoniously raised one cheek of his derriere toward the instructor whilst simultaneously releasing a violent stream of flatulence, and proclaimed in a tone fraught with contempt said, (and I quote), “THAT’S what I think of your class.” (All caps intentionally used for emphasis.) </p>
<p>I wasn’t privy to the seating arrangements he chose upon his departure, post haste.</p>
<p>Visit me at logcap4jobs.com</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

I’m former KBR employee, unfortunately I was terminated from my supervisor for one stupid reason. Do you think that I will have problems if I try to get a job with Fluor?
I have been trying with Fluor for few months by no luck so far ?

Any respond will be greatly appreciated</description>
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<p>I’m former KBR employee, unfortunately I was terminated from my supervisor for one stupid reason. Do you think that I will have problems if I try to get a job with Fluor?<br />
I have been trying with Fluor for few months by no luck so far ?</p>
<p>Any respond will be greatly appreciated</p>
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		<title>By: nikki tortora</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/10/fluors-locap-iv-offer-for-kbr-employees-in-afghanistan/comment-page-3/#comment-7706</link>
		<dc:creator>nikki tortora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be kidding?That info should be obtained easily as Apple pie?! Are you familiar with internal  professional networking? Give it a try! Good luck in your search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be kidding?That info should be obtained easily as Apple pie?! Are you familiar with internal  professional networking? Give it a try! Good luck in your search.</p>
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