KBR will not protest LOGCAP IV contract awards in Afghanistan
Below are excerpts from a Houston Chronicle article published yesterday.
In a conference call Thursday morning to discuss the company’s second-quarter results with market analysts, KBR’s Bill Utt told analysts that KBR will not protest the outcome of two awards to other engineering and construction companies for U.S. Army work in Afghanistan. DynCorp International Inc. and Fluor Corp. were awarded a combined $3 billion contract earlier this month for support services to U.S. troops.
Recently, two major contracts in Afghanistan were awarded to the other contractors. Utt said today that KBR will not challenge the Army’s decision on the contracts, but after being briefed by the Pentagon, believes the awards went to other companies because the government feels pressure to divide the work among several companies rather than giving it to a single provider.
The Houston-based company warned that its U.S. troop support work in Afghanistan will begin to wind down in coming months as other contractors take over and will also decline in Iraq amid planned American troop withdrawls. (click HERE to read the entire article)
Hmmm. All my “Ms Sparky” senses are going off! (note: Spiderman has “spidy sense”) KBR must be up to something and it has to do with money. To not protest this award will cost them millions just in reimbursable expenses of daily operations. They could have drug this on for months. To protest a huge contract award such as this should be Standard Operating Procedure (SOP).
Is it just me or does something stink here?
Ms Sparky
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- Army Awards KBR Yet Another Contract! You Must Be Kidding Me!
Friday, July 31st 2009 at 6:49 am |
Perhaps this is a ploy to divert the House and Senate from continuing their investigations and hearings. I find it hard to believe that KBR would just roll over and stop trying to milk the cash cow that has given them so much.
I hope Senators Dorgan, Casey, McCaskill etc.. continue their fight until the soldiers and their families get the justice they are seeking.
Friday, July 31st 2009 at 7:13 am |
Magnanimity on behalf of KBR seems odd indeed. Water cooler speculation is that they’re hoping to avoid the limelight and perhaps put an end to the lawsuits.
KBR management continues to write up the American workers here on BAF at an unprecedented pace, especially the more qualified folks. Fire the talent and abandon ship! No magnanimity here, for sure!
Friday, July 31st 2009 at 9:06 am |
Think I will start a school dedicated to teaching the art of Greed, theft, lack of ethics and immorality. Maybe I could hire the soon-to-be-former management with KBR to be the teachers. Maybe they could show me how to get a multi-million dollar grant to fund it and , uh, hmmm, you get the picture.
Where do they find these people who “Manage”?
Friday, July 31st 2009 at 9:17 am |
they won’t protest because they have been told not to because they will not be heard. Better to quit while they are ahead. they will let Fluor and dyncorp run with it and figure out it is not possible to do this contract. just my two cents
Friday, July 31st 2009 at 9:47 am |
On the surface this makes little business sense. It could be KBR has other contracts, which earn approximately the same or better margin with less liability. It is somewhat surprising KBR doesn’t protest the awards and fix the problems they created or the ones they have not disclosed. This would present KBR an opportunity, as MacArthur had in the Philippines, to return as the conquering hero and prove MacArthur’s idiom of “I Shall Return.”
Of course corporate might realize their survey is an accurate assessment with growing public dissatisfaction with its legal entanglements and fly low under the radar until these issues have been resolved or they are no longer in the congressional limelight. The impending lawsuits will lose the depth and brevity they deserve only to be settled or dismissed in a backwoods legal systems of Texas or Louisiana. KBR will ponder their strategy to make campaign contributions to the judicial districts where these cases are heard.
It has been mentioned from other sources, KBR is being held in a contingency position in the event Fluor or DynCorp fail. This would allow time for KBR to straighten out the organization and re-bid on future task orders. This opportunity will present itself with a greater contract transparency and the new contractors receive several CAR’s due to problems KBR created in the first place. It all makes sense!
Saturday, August 1st 2009 at 1:01 am |
I feel they are ensuring the quality workers are sent home so that the new companies will be forced to hire the useless and nothing will change, KBR will then come in with some old timers who will make superficial changes to make it look good and try to get back to business as usual but I feel the new companies have been there before and will be able to find the things that KBR would like have go wrong. We are hearing still that the new companies have to hire people still in country before taking othes from the US in order to save funds but the Gov should know already that the ones beig sent home now are being victimized because they stood up in the past or have caused embarrassment by actually doing things right for a change
Saturday, August 1st 2009 at 3:43 am |
it stil remains to be seen, who exactly the “new” contractors hire, American labor and job skills or, Job skills form a country where they work for less..no one knows and no one has yet said, i guess after the first week in Augest we will all know more, ….we seem to be getting NO accurate info, at least from the KBR chain of comand…..only copies of the “New” QCP …..and of course sign in sheets… i think i will apply for the signature collectors job, if it is ever vacant..
Saturday, August 1st 2009 at 7:01 am |
Fluor’s bringing in workers from the Philippines into Bagram by the helicopter full, despite the over-abundance of TCN’s already here. Thanks schmucks, er, ah, I mean US taxpayers.
? Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. ?
Saturday, August 1st 2009 at 7:24 am |
BAF–fer,
Also heard that Fluor is hiring some of the KBR Managers with a less than stellular work history, including those that should have been terminated but were shuffled instead. The troops deserve better and a company with a reputation of being one of the few with ethics should be more careful or they will slide down the same slippery slope that Stanski helped KBR dive down.
Saturday, August 1st 2009 at 7:50 am |
More TCN’s to do what design build and maintain or wash and run the dfac’s and run the place into the ground even further.
Wednesday, August 5th 2009 at 12:17 pm |
I am confused! Why do I keep reading that KBR has been kicked out of IRAQ under LOGCAP, but yet they have a bunch of new job listings on their web site for IRAQ under the LOGCAP contract? What the heck is going on? Are they in or out??
Thursday, August 6th 2009 at 8:51 am |
Who knows Sharon, no body at the moment knows who is what or where. All i know is that charter flight company is fighting with Iraqi authorities and no one is flying in or out of Iraq via Skylink.
Saturday, August 8th 2009 at 8:39 am |
To all readers,
What makes people think that KBR is the only company sanctioned by the all mighty to supply and support our military customers. I think KBR is just a little high on their horse for me! I notice it’s the same people on here writing all the time and to me they are crap stirrers and are putting the seed of failure out their. I feel that the new companies replacing the old bunch will do as well or better learning from the mistakes of the other’s. GOOD LUCK ALL
Saturday, August 8th 2009 at 6:12 pm |
lookingforlogcapiv said that we are crap stirrers. First off, the word is there and not their LOOKING! Secondly, I have not seen a ship move that did not make waves! Thirdly, your attitude is exactly why people like Hitler rose to a powerful position because of apathy! Things change because of activism. The enviromental groups are one I think of along with Ralph Nader. Latly, people would not be complaining IF KBR management did follow all the rules they have put out including the safety ones like safety comes first, yeah right. The sad fact is that the job comes first. That is an ugly fact because KBR is run in the Mideast by retired army who think this way. The air force always was this. The job does not always come first because if people are tired the mission can be compromised. I have mostly seen only retired army in management positions. If it was not for crap stirrers as you put it we would still be breathing dirty air and drinking bad water in the states. So I guess Lookingfologcapiv that you are just an ostrich!!!
Saturday, August 8th 2009 at 7:23 pm |
I was there and personally seen the crap that goes on. I’ve seen those who were cut slack and those who weren’t for reason or another. I could of accepted it as normal KBR B.S. business as usual but when the Masseth was electrocuted it only reinforced what I knew to be fact. Positions that were meant to be filled by qualified Americans were being replaced by TCN’s and because they didn’t complain. I knew at that point everything was going down hill. The Army shares the blame for signing off on this as well as Jim Lushinger and KBR’ers who created this problem. This is the reason the CID won’t MAN-UP.
Sunday, August 16th 2009 at 10:42 am |
Ok….I am not a fan of the KBR crap machine….however, the hiring of TCN’s was a mandate by the government, not KBR. In the new contracts with DynCorp and Fluor, I believe the mandate by the government is that the percentage should be more like 70/30 favoring American workers. Can anyone else confirm this? Also, the original plan for Fluor was that they would hire most of the work staff from the states and not take on KBR people. But the government shot that down and are requiring them to take on nearly 80-90 percent of current incumbents where possible. But that is from the Foreman position down…. They do not plan on taking on management staff and that includes site managers, department managers, and especially senior staff. Anyone else heard the same thing or something different?
Cheers
Ms Sparky’s Response:
“They do not plan on taking on management staff and that includes site managers, department managers, and especially senior staff.” Good moved.
Except for the fact that Fluor has already hired Bruce Stanski, Jeff Uribe and many others to run the show.
Sunday, August 16th 2009 at 11:27 am |
Ballgame,
The mandate from the government is not to hire TCN staff, it is to use LN staff whenever possible. The purpose for hiring local nationals is to stimulate the local economy.
Also there are several personnel that have been hired by Fluor who hold/held the position of site manager or above.
Sunday, August 16th 2009 at 11:44 pm |
There is no ‘mandate’ to use LN resources, thats basic provisions in the FAR and has been in there for decades.
Ballgame is correct in that the DoS, DoD, and all the ACO’s are the ones to bring up the usage of TCN’s. If we submit, they pick at it going “can we replace…?”. They do this. The poor contract administrator will forsee that and add them into the original task order file…. too stupid to realize its a given already.
We never include them in the initials because it lets the ACO’s feel like they actually did something on the negotiating table. Face it, ACO’s have no clue for the most part. For that matter, the workers, laborers, and especially the crafts have no clue at all, armchair warriors.
There is a bottom line, and it still has to mean substantial profit… otherwise, you can go find some altruistic hippy group to do it free. And no, you cant use terms like “fair profit” because its a hazard duty area.
Ms Sparky’s Response:
I am going to let the Real Contract Experts argue this one. I know how skewed KBR’s view of the contract is.
Tuesday, September 8th 2009 at 3:46 pm |
just to let you guys know KBR is taking there sweet A$$ time with the transition
I am just about going through the bs if you are coming to Greenville bring plenty of money you will need it they only pay 10 days of hotel which mine ends tomorrow
one difference i am getting paid I am just waiting on medical
dentist
Ms Sparky’s Response:
I would expect them to drag it out as long as possible. More money for them. “ka-ching ka-ching”
Tuesday, September 8th 2009 at 3:58 pm |
….said ex KBR coming to Fluor that is news to me
wait one minute i said that months ago
Wednesday, September 9th 2009 at 9:20 pm |
does anyone have or no where to obtain information on air charter service, SkyLink , KBR, and the Iraqi Civil Air Authority?? As of 7 September , no one is flying charter again, whats up????
Friday, September 11th 2009 at 6:47 pm |
Griffin Airlines is currently operational from what I heard.
Oh yeah…………Is Fluor doing pre-deployment training in Greenville, or are they waiting till you get to Kuwait to do NBC training and ect…..?
Friday, September 11th 2009 at 6:50 pm |
Fluor Foreman said,on September 8th, 2009 at 3:46 pm just to let you guys know KBR is taking there sweet A$$ time with the transition
I am just about going through the bs if you are coming to Greenville bring plenty of money you will need it they only pay 10 days of hotel which mine ends tomorrow
one difference i am getting paid I am just waiting on medical
dentist
Ms Sparky’s Response:
I would expect them to drag it out as long as possible. More money for them. “ka-ching ka-ching”
Isnt the new LOGCAP contract firm fixed price> whereas LOGCAP III was a cost plus…..
This would make FLUOR more money in that case. Just wondering…………
Ms Sparky’s Response:
Yes…possibly. I’m not that familiar with Fluor’s contract. But we don’t hate Fluor…..yet. We hate KBR.
Saturday, September 12th 2009 at 4:56 am |
All of LOGCAP IV is Firm Fixed Price unlike LOGCAP III which was cost plus. This also answers a lot of questions why there was so much spending on the First LOGCAP contracts. It also explains why Dyncorp and Fluor are running around chasing their tales and have no deployment process in place. I was present at the greenspoint when DC and Fluor executives toured the DPC in Houston. They know how to get it done, they are just looking for the cheapest way to do it. KBR offered for them to use the DPC for their portion of the contracts, for a hefty fee im sure…..:) however, it was offered.
Saturday, September 12th 2009 at 7:36 pm |
I have heard that Jeff Uribe was an OK guy? Isnt’ he supposed to the the Country HR Manager for Flour? I don’t actually know him, just rumors. Anyone confirm/deny? Of course I heard Stanski was a F&&%ing idiot.
LOL
Ms Sparky’s Response:
Oh boy….you opened you self up on that one. Anyone want to share their Jeff Uribe experiences with “ballgame”. Jeff Uribe managing HR is like Satan watching over the gates to Heaven. It’s ludicrous.
As far ask Stanski goes. Look at it this way. He was at the helm when KBR was raping and pillaging the DoD, the DoS, our soldiers, our civilians and the US taxpayer. If he didn’t know what was going on he is a stupid criminal. If he did know what was going on he is an arrogant criminal. But this is all just my humble opinion.
Sunday, September 13th 2009 at 11:44 am |
Boy, I hope you are all settled in there in Greenville. I have heard the government is dragging its feet on a transition, and may even decide to wait until the spring to push forward. Word is KBR will keep BLS for awhile up north and Fluor will do some new construction over the winter while they wait for the BLS contracts.
Has anyone heard that Dyncorp is only offering a 7-14-7 vacation schedule?
Sunday, September 13th 2009 at 2:18 pm |
I am I will be here until mid October oh wait i finally getting a big check from AIG I am pretty much ready to go at this point I am in no rush to get to my tent don’t worry they found something for me to do
one thing that is why they tell you expect a short stint in Greenville
Sunday, September 13th 2009 at 6:36 pm |
Apparently Both Fluor and Dyncorp are over there heads with this mission in afghanistan and now the Government know this. When you get 89 CARS in one day and Get a Level 4 CAR that was reduced to a 3 because they did not want the contractor to get booted before they started LOL. You say KBR is dragging there feet with the transition nope it is the government when you try to move equipement and supplies during the winter on those roads it is virtually impossible that is why they move supplies during the summer so it is in place when the weather turns bad. To all you KBR haters watch and see what happens with the contract in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Why did they award the contract in afghanistan the way they did putting Fluor in the North and Dyncorp in the South. Why did they give KBR a LOTD to assist Fluor with Man power and materials? Ms Sparky questioned why did they close the Level 3 Car in Iraq? Dyncorp is currently skating on Thin Ice in both Kuwait and Afghanistan. That is why they have slowed the transition because the Government has seen that neither company can stand up and and provide the same services that KBR does yes KBR has it’s problems no one is perfect. I am sure alot of you will say i am full of dung but look at what is going on. Fluor Foreman complains that KBR is dragging there feet WRONG the government is. By the way alot of those people who are working there will be replace by TCN from other countries not the balkans if those people stay on they will be subcractors hired by another company. So this balkan mafia days are numbered. Good luck Fluor and Dyncorp. I wonder why alot of ex KBR folks who jumped ship expecting the contract start up and get to work quickly are trying to get on with KBR? Have a good day Folks.
Sunday, September 13th 2009 at 7:20 pm |
simple the military was unhappy with KBR that is why they got screwed and that is why they are dragging their feet
now Fluor is moving pretty quick with transition in the south task order 2 to hand over to Dyn corp
you in Greenville right now
on the dragging their feet Fluor is requesting certain paperwork KBR is refusing to give it up
Sunday, September 13th 2009 at 7:23 pm |
contractinstructor said,
there is a back log in Dubai and Kuwait
there has been personnel here 6 weeks
oh ya military badging was done for a week
Monday, September 14th 2009 at 6:54 am |
Are you guy’s familiar with this company: http://recon-international.iapplicants.com/searchjobs.php
Apparently they are Flour subcontractor in north AFG
Ms Sparky’s Response:
I’m not familiar with them. Thanks for the link.
Monday, September 14th 2009 at 8:24 am |
simple the military was unhappy with KBR that is why they got screwed and that is why they are dragging their feet
now Fluor is moving pretty quick with transition in the south task order 2 to hand over to Dyn corp
you in Greenville right now
on the dragging their feet Fluor is requesting certain paperwork KBR is refusing to give it up
LOL, well i am sure you guys are chopping at the bit to get started so the CARS that Fluor is reciveing is KBR’s Fault yeah right. Besides you are in Greenville and you aren not aware of what is going on in Afghanistan. No the military was not unhappy with KBR it was politics. I hope Ms Sparky keeps an eye on the new guys in town as well as KBR.
Ms Sparky’s Response:
You damn betcha!! The issues are the same. Our soldiers, Our civilians, and our Tax Dollars. It’s going to take time to build up and information base with Fluor and DynCorp employees. But….I got time!
Monday, September 14th 2009 at 10:21 am |
Ms Sparky, have you been able to track down the Level III CAR that either Fluor or DynCorp has reportedly already gotten. This Afghanistan transition is going to blow up in the face of the government.
Ms Sparky’s Response:
I have not. If someone could send it or at least get me a CAR # that would be great. Every time someone tells me there has been a CAR issued I report it to my Congressional contacts. But, do to the fact that the DCMA is not very cooperative getting those documents is difficult.
Monday, September 14th 2009 at 11:33 am |
Word at all hands is that Fluor has 6 camps already in the north. Jalalabad is phase II and they are working the small FOBs up high down to JBad. They are offering 4 RnRs. 14 days each with pay for all days. The logistics on the RnRs is still a rumour as if one must pay for one’s charter or not. Pay is highly better but the rumour on that is that Fluor is paying from the states. If true then all pay will be taxed. Let’s wait and see. One thing for sure, I only see Fluor people wearing a lanyard and no hats, hoorah!
Monday, September 14th 2009 at 11:37 am |
Glad to see the TCNs scared now and not so arrogant
Tuesday, September 15th 2009 at 2:57 pm |
only to grow to 62 task order 5
the bases are not built yet
yes you will be taxed
yes they do offer 4 RNR
as for the pay issue it is if you get paid over 9200 a month you get taxed
there is a reason why they pay more you live in a tent
Saturday, January 9th 2010 at 2:59 pm |
Do you have your fluor recruiter number it wold be a big help to me. thanks just email me at edited@yahoo.com (I can get you in touch if you need to the spammers will take over you in box)
Tuesday, September 15th 2009 at 5:58 pm |
greenguy said,on September 14th, 2009 at 11:37 am Glad to see the TCNs scared now and not so arrogant
I heard that they will not be direct hires of fluor but by one of fluor sub contractors. Straight 2500 dollars per month is what i am hearing.
Friday, September 18th 2009 at 5:09 pm |
From what ms Sparky says and some of the others here, there is a complete lack of experience that KBR had hired in Iraq. Two points, supervisors (cuz I didn’t know anyone higher) are responsible for 10-25 TCNs. Most of the electrical work was done by Indians, Turks, and Sri Lankans. Do you know what an Assistant Electrician is? It’s the TCN making $500/mo to carry a ladder and fetch a flashlight! I personally interviewed a lot of these TCNs for their badging purposes and knew they were not qualified–most were farmers in their own country! When I mentioned this to my sups, I was told, “Stay in your lane. If they do not pose a terrorist threat, then allow them to get badged. We are not HR people.” Second Point: LNs are used for perimeter security and filling sandbags or Hescos.
Now with respect to Fluor, they are the US’s largest construction company. Will they be able to handle the logistics as well? We’ll see. I’ve applied for several positions under Fluor and haven’t heard back despite I have direct experience and time in Iraq. Also, applied with Ronco Consulting Corp. Anyone have any news on them? They are only at Kandahar Airfield for now and not sure if they will get a bigger piece of the pie or loose out all together. So, I guess I’m taking the only thing certain and that’s with DynCorp. We’ll see what happens. This is a great blog board and will stay posted until I depart.
To the families that lost loves ones due to electrical malfunctions (to be nice), my deepest regrets. There’s no honor in dying in the shower. Nonetheless, they choose to serve their country and do more than many in the US would ever sacrifice. Never forget the soldier, he dies for your freedom and Jesus died to save your soul. Amen to all out there!
Saturday, September 19th 2009 at 3:49 pm |
start of week 4 it is fun sitting around doing nothing for weeks maybe months oh ya I am getting paid
the stuff we are being told is so KBR
I have been told FGG has separate guidelines than KBR
let me think about that same old crap because FGG has hired most of the ex KBR managers
Friday, October 2nd 2009 at 9:20 am |
After being gone from KBR for almost a year, I am now on with another contractor. Would love to get boots down in Baghdad again but cannot get my LOA. Why you ask? It seems KBR still holds my record as one of their employees. The SPOT system asks the administrators to clear out any old deployment records and such. I wonder if this has any effect on how much KBR is still billing the gov.
Ms Sparky’s Response:
Well isn’t that interesting! I will surely pass that on! Thank you. Will you shoot me an email with your name and SAP number and when you dmob’d. Just click the contact us tab above. Also, have you contacted KBR about this issue?
Friday, October 2nd 2009 at 11:13 am |
@ Ms Sparky: I demob’ed October of 08. There is a system in place to get my record over from KBR and it should be handled easily. You have mail with my name and kbr position.
Friday, October 2nd 2009 at 1:44 pm |
Is there a way that I can research that same information on my own? I’ve gotten in touch with a few different companies and want to make sure I am not being held up by anything.
Ken
Ms Sparky’s Response:
Let me check into how to do that and then I will post it. I guess I need to check for myself as well.
Sunday, October 4th 2009 at 8:03 pm |
If your LOA is being held by SPOT, and you need a release to go to work with a new contractor,call KBR or who ever you have been working for and they will release it.KBR did it for me while talking to them on the phone.Hope this helped.
Thursday, November 26th 2009 at 4:47 pm |
Hey I see lot’s of questions about KBR’s ethics and Flour’s possible mistake of taking on the same characteristics. It’s possible, when i was a manger for KBR i accidently recieved an e-mail in regards to LOGCAP IV about key personnel being recruited by flour and the need to offer them more money. I think William Rambo is the worst of them all on the KBR side, he has no common sense and besides telling people to wear a lanyard and put their hat on straight I saw very little management skills to be desired from him. He needs to be a hall monitor not a Project Manager.
Saturday, November 28th 2009 at 6:46 pm |
We have had a little experience with William Rambo. My opinion of his management skills are definitely not fit to be posted on this forum. I will say hall moniter would even be pushing it.
Thursday, November 26th 2009 at 5:01 pm |
Yeah before you comment on it I Misspelled Manager! Forgot to mention that although I believe electricians and mechanics should be QUALIFIED Americans or equivalent. TCN’s and Iraqi Nationals are the way to go in my opinion. They complain less and work when you direct them what to do. It’s like anything else, retain the best talent and get rid of the slackers. Unfortunately it’s the people who don’t try to change things for the better that have been retained because they fly under the radar and it’s caught up to KBR. I have nothing against the company, they step up when there’s no one else to do it, but they’ve sacrificed a lot of morals and ethics for the dollar.
Friday, November 27th 2009 at 8:18 pm |
I have a question, my husband was deployed as an electrician with KBR a few months ago. What happens to him when the other companies come in, he is a hard working person, just trying to support his family. Now what? Thanks if anyone has any answers for me.
Saturday, November 28th 2009 at 5:58 am |
Aimee-Is he in Afghanistan or Iraq? The companies are going to have to have people on the ground who are familiar. They won’t get rid of everyone. But if I’m not mistaken they are reviewing qualifications. Have him submit his resume to Fluor and Dyncorp and get it in the system.
Saturday, November 28th 2009 at 10:49 am |
Thanks for the info I have already submitted his resume to Fluor. I will do the same for Dynacorp. He is currently in Afghanistan. Of course where I believe the contracts with KBR are being terminated. My husband is quite different (of course that is comming from a wife) but he has always been a workaholic and never a slacker, which is why he was able to keep working here as long as he did, with the work dwindling. Then he took every class imaginable to be ready when work returned. Has never done any drugs, doesnt drink and works his butt off so we are praying he is able to stay (as much as we really want him home) but he is just trying to keep the family afloat. Thanks for your info, if you come up with anything else let me know. Have a wonderful day.
Saturday, November 28th 2009 at 9:46 pm |
ok ok sorry more questions… does anyone out there know anything about the burma base camp. I hear it is not good. I hope I am hearing wrong. Any information will be helpful. Thank you to all.
Thursday, December 3rd 2009 at 10:22 am |
Does anybody check this board anymore or do they just not know…. UGH.. Sorry more questions… Now anybody with any information on Bermel? I understand it is very very small. 4 blocks mabe by 4 blocks. And the other 2 bases near there have already been closed. Has anyone been there? And if so any information would be so helpful… Thanks so much. And by the way what do you think will happen if he asks for a transfer?
Thanks again.
Aimee’