Comments on: Is DoD asleep on the job in Kuwait too?

By: wmaousley

wmaousley — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:22:27 +0000

Actually CSA holds all passports for 90 days, This is so the individual(s) new hires wont leave and the US Army will pay $160,000 to CSA for a new-hire after 90 days. SO after 90 days you can leave if you want to and CSA is the one to benefit.

CSA will email you a paper visa prior to coming to Kuwait. This is a Business visa valid for 1 month. Once you arrive CSA will then have the mandoob for Al Ahlea Circle Cleaning Co. (The Sponsor) for CSA transfer the business visa into an Article 18A or 18B work visa valid for 1 year. This process takes 1 HOUR. However CSA will lead you to believe (under false pretences) it takes 90 days.

If you come to Kuwait to work for CSA, you should demand to have the work permit receipt between Al Ahlea Circle Cleaning Co. and the Shoon or Ministry of Labor & Social Affairs. This Green paper will state your salary that Al Ahlea pays you direct into a bank account. Its around 800KD monthly. However you will never see this money unless you sue CSA and Al Ahlea.

Also I would advise you the new-hire to contact a lawyer in Kuwait to review your contract between you CSA & CSA Ltd, as you will be required to sign both contracts.

Also its your right to ask for a contract between you and Al Ahlea Cirle Cleaning Co. since they will be your sponsor. CSA WILL NOT BE YOUR SPONSOR IN KUWAIT which limits their liability for you thus making it easier to cheat you.

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS BEFORE COMING TO KUWAIT

If you have any questions feel free to contact me anytime… wmaousley@yahoo.com

By: Inshallah

Inshallah — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:13:29 +0000

It’s normally back to you in about a month, but they can usually get it back to you sooner, if you absolutely have to have it. That being said, there are some issues with the Kuwaiti immigration system. They just drafted a new labor law for expatriate workers here in Kuwait. So the wait could be a bit longer.
Keep in mind that if you bail early you will have to pay some penalties. It’s really not that bad. I have been here 4 years now. The weather is brutal and the attitude of the locals can really wear on you, but it’s so worth it every other Friday. Just be smart and save your money, and you will be fine.

By: former CSA

former CSA — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:45:41 +0000

They kept mine for 4 months.

By: Will

Will — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:06:29 +0000

Thinking about going to Kuwait with CSA…my concern…there was something said about passport retention. How long is your passport held for? You know, just in case it’s awful and I want to bail.

By: Inshallah

Inshallah — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:09:33 +0000

Look the bottom line is this. CSA will pay you a lot of money to come here and work. Yes they are a large organization, and they face problems because of it. It’s difficult to really screen out the bad eggs.
There are companies that pay out more, but they usually work far more hours. I have seen many “unhappy” employees leave CSA only to come back a few months later.

By: BONEZ

BONEZ — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:09:36 +0000

YOU GUYS ARE FREAKIN ME OUT… I ABOUT TO GO TO KUWAIT CSA AND SOUNDS LIKE A NIGHTMARE…HOPE ITS JUST SOUR GRAPES…. I AM AN ELECTRICIAN IS ALL THE JOBS LIKE THIS

By: sail

sail — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:16:58 +0000

CSA’s contract has been extened until 30 June 2010. The KBOSS contract has not yet been awarded.

By: ZeroTolerance

ZeroTolerance — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:12:20 +0000

Fair enough

By: Ms Sparky

Ms Sparky — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:01:46 +0000

I will agree…not the brightest crayon in the box. As far as user ID’s go, I am not going to disclose that even if he is a nut case.

By: ZeroTolerance

ZeroTolerance — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:44:01 +0000

I say let Whistleblower post his personal email. At the very least he deserves to be “super spammed”

By: ZeroTolerance

ZeroTolerance — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:41:46 +0000

Some light reading on Orlando Turner, aka: Whistleblower, Landed, TimeToComeClean (and a few others)
Enjoy!

Below, courtesy of the Kuwait media, are links to the now “infamous” Orlando Turner.

http://www.alwatandaily.com/articleviews.aspx?id=70723&cat=1
http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=MzA4MzI5NzM=
http://www.q8nri.com/home/2010/03/02/orlando-turners-lawyer-says-client-was-suicidal/

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m certain a lawsuit can’t be filed from Federal Prison.

By: absent from kuwait

absent from kuwait — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:37:56 +0000

Does anyone know what CSA’s contract end date is? Also, Who has been awarded the new contract?

By: ZeroTolerance

ZeroTolerance — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:33:54 +0000

Mr. Turner, I see your finally showing your true colors. It seems that by threatening to blow up half of Kuwait and then admitting it on YouTube and to Alwatan? Ethically challenged just doesn’t seem to cover it.(The genetic lottery must have bypassed this brain-child).
If CSA is going to jail, you are definitely going to beat them there. Below, courtesy of the Kuwait media, are links to the now “infamous” Orlando Turner.

There are more, these are just from March 2, 2010.

Anyone looking to file that class action suit will probably have to look elsewhere, seems Mr. Turner will be tied up (no pun intended) for the next few years.

By: AboveTheClouds

AboveTheClouds — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:26:31 +0000

I have seen many positions that were filled by true Westerners become vacant. They are then filled by “local hire” Filippinos. They are referred to as Westerners on our work schedule and whenever mentioned outside work schedule. That is whether or not they are married to an American. This whole practice is a disgrace. I could say more, but I’ve seen some denial. Some people have their head in the sand.

By: Philip Nolan

Philip Nolan — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:23:21 +0000

When will DCMA wake up to DynCorp’s procurement procedures in Kuwait?

Almost all materials are bought from trading companies, not directly from a supplier. Almost every purchase includes a vendor substitution for the product requested by the end-user. The prices paid are sky-high.

The trading companies are profiting from this. Who else might be?

By: Joy Carino

Joy Carino — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:55:30 +0000

Many class action lawsuit or potential lawsuits are spoke of here-but where are the contacts for these groups-

It appears they are spoken of but no concrete direction to where to align other than CSA we found today.Companies through out the region beyond CSA and KBR.

Burn Pit,CSA,Overtime,Hazard duty pay issues but no place for persons to add there name and information to assist in these actions.

By: ATLien4Life

ATLien4Life — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:16:00 +0000

Any creditable evidence to support your claims? Far as your problem with the “Culture of Laziness”…maybe you should stay focused on supporting your family and doing you. I wouldn’t say no one was out to get you, but I would say there is no such thing as the “good old boy system” in Kuwait. Everyone here is out to save their own azzes. More like…every man/woman for themselves.

By: whogivesahoot

whogivesahoot — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:24:21 +0000

Correction “local hires” DO NOT receive FALA.

By: whogivesahoot

whogivesahoot — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:16:52 +0000

Filipinos are NOT considered western hire employees they are “local hires.” They are paid 65% of the western salary because they live on the local economy. They provide their own apartments, transportation and food. They do receive a bi-weekly FALA like all western employees do! Just look at their badges, it is “red bordered” and not white like a western hire, this is CSA policy and contract policy!

By: Betty Stewart

Betty Stewart — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:40:38 +0000

All Filippinos are also considered Westerners whether or not they are married to the Americans.