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		<title>By: Thomas Scofield</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-13559</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Scofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for KBR for a year I got fired because hector trashed my truck with his sex toys and lube when I was on R$R anyway will this leave a black mark on my record? Will I not be able to get hired on wuith FLuor for LogcapIV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for KBR for a year I got fired because hector trashed my truck with his sex toys and lube when I was on R$R anyway will this leave a black mark on my record? Will I not be able to get hired on wuith FLuor for LogcapIV?</p>
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		<title>By: Fluor Foreman    KBR Supervisor (RIP)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fluor Foreman    KBR Supervisor (RIP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bad news for Anaconda HVAC  HAHA 
when does their  contract at Anaconda start  31rst correct 
29th hmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bad news for Anaconda HVAC  HAHA<br />
when does their  contract at Anaconda start  31rst correct<br />
29th hmm</p>
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		<title>By: Fluor Foreman    KBR Supervisor (RIP)</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-4050</link>
		<dc:creator>Fluor Foreman    KBR Supervisor (RIP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t tell you how many times i saw it 
hmm does sound familiar  I was given that option 
well all in the past I have been in talking to Fluor and I process as a Foreman on the 29th of this month

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
Congrats!! I do hope that Fluor is better than KBR. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how many times i saw it<br />
hmm does sound familiar  I was given that option<br />
well all in the past I have been in talking to Fluor and I process as a Foreman on the 29th of this month</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
Congrats!! I do hope that Fluor is better than KBR.</p>
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		<title>By: zzzzap</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>zzzzap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found out yesterday that the Electrical Superintendent(or whatever his title was) for D&amp;F sites Demob&#039;d. Rumor has it that he was set to go on R&amp;R to China with his wife and was told to push back his R&amp;R or Demob. Seeing as he had spent all year working on a visa for his wife he elected to Demob and wrote a very strongly worded letter to Houston. It&#039;s a shame because he was a very nice and good guy.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
Nice way to repay a good employee. I am afraid his letter to Houston will fall on deaf ears. If he wants me to publish it I will be happy to. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found out yesterday that the Electrical Superintendent(or whatever his title was) for D&amp;F sites Demob&#8217;d. Rumor has it that he was set to go on R&amp;R to China with his wife and was told to push back his R&amp;R or Demob. Seeing as he had spent all year working on a visa for his wife he elected to Demob and wrote a very strongly worded letter to Houston. It&#8217;s a shame because he was a very nice and good guy.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
Nice way to repay a good employee. I am afraid his letter to Houston will fall on deaf ears. If he wants me to publish it I will be happy to.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage Against KBR</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2648</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage Against KBR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 15:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have had several Mechanics injured at our site because Management threaten to fire them if they did not complete jobs (in unsafe conditions, i.e no jacks or wrong tools). With several of the injured Mechanics I have stayed in touch with, they all have the same story. Injured, Sent to Kuwait with No Pay, then referred to the USA for 30-60 days, all of which received Termination Letters while on Medical Leave for &quot;Performing Work outside the SOP which lead to Personal Injury&quot;.

Anyone who thinks for one second you will be taken care of if hurt, think different. That $80K+ you make better go in to a account named &quot;When I get Fired&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have had several Mechanics injured at our site because Management threaten to fire them if they did not complete jobs (in unsafe conditions, i.e no jacks or wrong tools). With several of the injured Mechanics I have stayed in touch with, they all have the same story. Injured, Sent to Kuwait with No Pay, then referred to the USA for 30-60 days, all of which received Termination Letters while on Medical Leave for &#8220;Performing Work outside the SOP which lead to Personal Injury&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks for one second you will be taken care of if hurt, think different. That $80K+ you make better go in to a account named &#8220;When I get Fired&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeyluvin</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2591</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeyluvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too spent my time working for KBR on LOGCAP III. Like most I took the good with the bad.  I was terminated for not being &quot;fit for duty for medical reasons.&quot; It was not clear to me and I am sure it will never be clear as to WHO deamed me not &quot;fit for duty&quot;. I was put on medical hold for 4 days with out pay. Let me remind you that we got 1 sick day a month and I had never used one in 26 months. When I went to the HR Manger and ask I was told no you can not use the sick days that you earned. Is it legal go give time off with with out pay in a War Zone/Hazard Zone?  We are in constant danger 24/7, rememeber insurgents take no time off, so would some one from KBR in Houston please explain that to the employees family. Your loved one was killed while on a day off with out pay for not wearing their KBR issued hat/lanyard. 
KBR is in a world of hurt right now and they do not need any more,but from the sounds of lots of former and current employees KBR is getting it right in the behind.   

I have no problem paying taxes for not being out of the counry for more than 330 days, rememeber we are being paid with US Tax dollars and I am US Citizen. And I know where my money is being spent.

I could go on and on and mention name after name, but it would do no good. Good luck to all of you folks still there and to those of us at home cheers........

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
I would love to hear your story. You can email me if you don&#039;t want to post it. Cheers! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too spent my time working for KBR on LOGCAP III. Like most I took the good with the bad.  I was terminated for not being &#8220;fit for duty for medical reasons.&#8221; It was not clear to me and I am sure it will never be clear as to WHO deamed me not &#8220;fit for duty&#8221;. I was put on medical hold for 4 days with out pay. Let me remind you that we got 1 sick day a month and I had never used one in 26 months. When I went to the HR Manger and ask I was told no you can not use the sick days that you earned. Is it legal go give time off with with out pay in a War Zone/Hazard Zone?  We are in constant danger 24/7, rememeber insurgents take no time off, so would some one from KBR in Houston please explain that to the employees family. Your loved one was killed while on a day off with out pay for not wearing their KBR issued hat/lanyard.<br />
KBR is in a world of hurt right now and they do not need any more,but from the sounds of lots of former and current employees KBR is getting it right in the behind.   </p>
<p>I have no problem paying taxes for not being out of the counry for more than 330 days, rememeber we are being paid with US Tax dollars and I am US Citizen. And I know where my money is being spent.</p>
<p>I could go on and on and mention name after name, but it would do no good. Good luck to all of you folks still there and to those of us at home cheers&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
I would love to hear your story. You can email me if you don&#8217;t want to post it. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: OMGYME</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>OMGYME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 04:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit to screwing off occasionally, but I felt that counterbalanced all the times when OT wasn&#039;t allowed and I pulled up to 18 hour shifts. I remember arriving to work around 0630 and walking out around 2130 almost everyday for around 6 months. In the month of August of &#039;05 b/c of the upcoming audits and lack of previous preparation in the materials department, many of us pulled in around 115 hours a week, and of course only 84 were documented. It was nothing for someone who was finished with their work to stay over and help the next shift &quot;off the clock&quot;. 

So like Ms Sparky said, &quot;every&quot; was a really poor choice of words. Try to understand that in that environment a few moments downtime sometimes made all the difference in the world for some folks&#039; sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit to screwing off occasionally, but I felt that counterbalanced all the times when OT wasn&#8217;t allowed and I pulled up to 18 hour shifts. I remember arriving to work around 0630 and walking out around 2130 almost everyday for around 6 months. In the month of August of &#8217;05 b/c of the upcoming audits and lack of previous preparation in the materials department, many of us pulled in around 115 hours a week, and of course only 84 were documented. It was nothing for someone who was finished with their work to stay over and help the next shift &#8220;off the clock&#8221;. </p>
<p>So like Ms Sparky said, &#8220;every&#8221; was a really poor choice of words. Try to understand that in that environment a few moments downtime sometimes made all the difference in the world for some folks&#8217; sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Krash</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2472</link>
		<dc:creator>Krash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will admit to timesheet fraud, as I was told numerous times by management to REDUCE the number of hours on my timesheet . . . so what do you have to say about that Jona3300????

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
I will admit that using the word &quot;every&quot; was probably not a good choice. But I will concur that there was a whole lost of screwing off going on. I&#039;m sure there are some people who did there part and never went to the PX on compant time or went any bazaars. But I will admit my fair share of going to the PX or coffee shop during work hours. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will admit to timesheet fraud, as I was told numerous times by management to REDUCE the number of hours on my timesheet . . . so what do you have to say about that Jona3300????</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
I will admit that using the word &#8220;every&#8221; was probably not a good choice. But I will concur that there was a whole lost of screwing off going on. I&#8217;m sure there are some people who did there part and never went to the PX on compant time or went any bazaars. But I will admit my fair share of going to the PX or coffee shop during work hours.</p>
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		<title>By: EMT-P 435</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2468</link>
		<dc:creator>EMT-P 435</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto to what Jimbo said as well!!!  

Especially when I was at Fallujah as the only KBR medic for the camp.  And how many &#039;vacation days&#039; or &#039;sick days&#039; did you take while there Jona?  I took 1 sick day my entire time and that&#039;s because I was puking my guts up with the flu when at the Al Asad clinic.  So don&#039;t give me this shit that &#039;everyone committed time sheet fraud&#039;.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
Again...I just think it is that word &quot;every&quot;. Not a good choice of words. But, I will have to agree there was a large amount of what would be considered timesheet fraud. Especially among management. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to what Jimbo said as well!!!  </p>
<p>Especially when I was at Fallujah as the only KBR medic for the camp.  And how many &#8216;vacation days&#8217; or &#8216;sick days&#8217; did you take while there Jona?  I took 1 sick day my entire time and that&#8217;s because I was puking my guts up with the flu when at the Al Asad clinic.  So don&#8217;t give me this shit that &#8216;everyone committed time sheet fraud&#8217;.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
Again&#8230;I just think it is that word &#8220;every&#8221;. Not a good choice of words. But, I will have to agree there was a large amount of what would be considered timesheet fraud. Especially among management.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 00:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jona3300 said,on April 29th, 2009 at 8:36 am  &quot;I worked in Finance and was a timekeeper for more than 18 months, timesheet fraud is committed by every employee I have ever seen over there.I have proof of this. &quot;

You can KMA! I worked every hour I put on my timesheet. 

I sat in a d*mn clinic for 12 hours every day waiting for you whiners to come in and attempt to impress me with the chronic illness you brought to the job thinking you were going to get free socialized healthcare. I don&#039;t know how many 16-18 hour days I worked covering the company from frivolous medical complaints and malingerers. 

Putting every employee in a single basket due to a personal presumption is telling of your mentality.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
Alrighty then. I know there were people who were totally committed as were you. And again I urge people not to use the all inclusive word &quot;EVERY&quot;!!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jona3300 said,on April 29th, 2009 at 8:36 am  &#8220;I worked in Finance and was a timekeeper for more than 18 months, timesheet fraud is committed by every employee I have ever seen over there.I have proof of this. &#8221;</p>
<p>You can KMA! I worked every hour I put on my timesheet. </p>
<p>I sat in a d*mn clinic for 12 hours every day waiting for you whiners to come in and attempt to impress me with the chronic illness you brought to the job thinking you were going to get free socialized healthcare. I don&#8217;t know how many 16-18 hour days I worked covering the company from frivolous medical complaints and malingerers. </p>
<p>Putting every employee in a single basket due to a personal presumption is telling of your mentality.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
Alrighty then. I know there were people who were totally committed as were you. And again I urge people not to use the all inclusive word &#8220;EVERY&#8221;!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jona3300</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>Jona3300</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the comments are right on target, KBR will fire you for any reason they want to, if you are not in the &quot;Click&quot; you are walking on thin ice. I witnessed a young lady wreck a KBR vehicle and not even get a write up. Why you ask? She was good friends with the manager of her department and he went to bat for her. She is still employed. I worked in Finance and was a timekeeper for more than 18 months, timesheet fraud is committed by every employee I have ever seen over there.I have proof of this. I was fired in December 2008 for not reporting to work on time after coming back from Medical leave. This was just an excuse to get rid of me. I had filed a formal complaint against my supervisor in June of 2008, and I knew was just a matter of time before they got me out of there. I was wrote up in September 2008 for something they claimed i did while I was taking a vacation day, once I proved that I was on vacation that day, they still blamed it on me stating that it was my responsibility to make sure the TCN did it right even when I wasn&#039;t there. But as many of you know If KBR management labels you as a problem (which you will get if you file a complaint against someone in management) it just a matter of time before you will be out of there.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
I would love to talk to you more about this. I sent you an email. Please contact me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the comments are right on target, KBR will fire you for any reason they want to, if you are not in the &#8220;Click&#8221; you are walking on thin ice. I witnessed a young lady wreck a KBR vehicle and not even get a write up. Why you ask? She was good friends with the manager of her department and he went to bat for her. She is still employed. I worked in Finance and was a timekeeper for more than 18 months, timesheet fraud is committed by every employee I have ever seen over there.I have proof of this. I was fired in December 2008 for not reporting to work on time after coming back from Medical leave. This was just an excuse to get rid of me. I had filed a formal complaint against my supervisor in June of 2008, and I knew was just a matter of time before they got me out of there. I was wrote up in September 2008 for something they claimed i did while I was taking a vacation day, once I proved that I was on vacation that day, they still blamed it on me stating that it was my responsibility to make sure the TCN did it right even when I wasn&#8217;t there. But as many of you know If KBR management labels you as a problem (which you will get if you file a complaint against someone in management) it just a matter of time before you will be out of there.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
I would love to talk to you more about this. I sent you an email. Please contact me.</p>
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		<title>By: OMGYME</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2391</link>
		<dc:creator>OMGYME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised that nobody has spoken of the RIF&#039;s (Reductions in force) done at least annually every year since 2005. It always seemed to coincide nicely with the nearing of the end of a task order or fiscal year, when the CLIENT ran low on funds. You know, when everyone was told you can&#039;t order supplies until the money starts rolling in again, there is a hiring freeze no matter if you are 4 people short on a 7 man mission, etc. Or about the spending spree&#039;s when the money did get turned on again.

It seems history is repeating itself. My husband let me know his camp was having to cut their scw force by 40% along with getting their expat numbers down to BOE strength. Now remember this BOE is the number of personnel allowed and approved of by the ACO/DCMA yada yada. When we asked for reasonable numbers it was slashed in half, so what do you do? Exaggerate to get what you need. I felt it to be a necessary evil. I absolutely loved being called out of bed at 0100 to answer questions about how many rolls of toilet paper I issued in a 30 day time frame, how long it took, and how many people could possible do it, when BOE time came around.

I do have to agree that things were different at each site, to me that was the major breakdown in the system. It was interpreted differently site to site, with each thinking they were doing it the right way. I got to travel to multiple sites with my job, allowing me to see the scope of this nightmare.

At one point I was asked to &quot;observe and give feedback&quot; on the STEAM SOR process because I was a SME. When I let them know that they were bogging down their system with unnecessary orders, I was told that it was the way it was there, and go on back to my site. They actually had one Labor Foreman spending all day creating and closing SOR&#039;s for silly things like &quot;sweeping off steps in front of office&quot;. Not to mention that since the site also included that projects headquarters, everything had to be run thru headquarters because mgmt wanted their thumb on everything. 

There are obvious disconnects, good ole boy tactics, and outright incompetence within the KBR infrastructure, but I am still thankful for the opportunity to meet and work with some of the best people from throughout the world. I just shudder to think how bad it could have been if we hadn&#039;t been there to try to counteract the former.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
I agree some of my best friends still, I met there. I have always contended that the majority of the everyday working people are awesome. We were just average working Joe&#039;s. It was the freakin&#039; power crazed managers that had God complexes that were the problem. Thanks for the great comment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that nobody has spoken of the RIF&#8217;s (Reductions in force) done at least annually every year since 2005. It always seemed to coincide nicely with the nearing of the end of a task order or fiscal year, when the CLIENT ran low on funds. You know, when everyone was told you can&#8217;t order supplies until the money starts rolling in again, there is a hiring freeze no matter if you are 4 people short on a 7 man mission, etc. Or about the spending spree&#8217;s when the money did get turned on again.</p>
<p>It seems history is repeating itself. My husband let me know his camp was having to cut their scw force by 40% along with getting their expat numbers down to BOE strength. Now remember this BOE is the number of personnel allowed and approved of by the ACO/DCMA yada yada. When we asked for reasonable numbers it was slashed in half, so what do you do? Exaggerate to get what you need. I felt it to be a necessary evil. I absolutely loved being called out of bed at 0100 to answer questions about how many rolls of toilet paper I issued in a 30 day time frame, how long it took, and how many people could possible do it, when BOE time came around.</p>
<p>I do have to agree that things were different at each site, to me that was the major breakdown in the system. It was interpreted differently site to site, with each thinking they were doing it the right way. I got to travel to multiple sites with my job, allowing me to see the scope of this nightmare.</p>
<p>At one point I was asked to &#8220;observe and give feedback&#8221; on the STEAM SOR process because I was a SME. When I let them know that they were bogging down their system with unnecessary orders, I was told that it was the way it was there, and go on back to my site. They actually had one Labor Foreman spending all day creating and closing SOR&#8217;s for silly things like &#8220;sweeping off steps in front of office&#8221;. Not to mention that since the site also included that projects headquarters, everything had to be run thru headquarters because mgmt wanted their thumb on everything. </p>
<p>There are obvious disconnects, good ole boy tactics, and outright incompetence within the KBR infrastructure, but I am still thankful for the opportunity to meet and work with some of the best people from throughout the world. I just shudder to think how bad it could have been if we hadn&#8217;t been there to try to counteract the former.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
I agree some of my best friends still, I met there. I have always contended that the majority of the everyday working people are awesome. We were just average working Joe&#8217;s. It was the freakin&#8217; power crazed managers that had God complexes that were the problem. Thanks for the great comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Sparky’s Response:
I am having to disagree with you here. I was told clearly by my tax man who specialized in out of country income that I must stay out of the US 330/365 consecutive days to maintain my tax free status. I had to come home 13 days early to take care of some business with my daughter. Took care if and headed to Canada to finish out my 13 days. I actually had them stamp my passport. I’d check on this. I think if they get fired and sent home their screwed. Any tax people here? 

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The 330/365 consecutive days out of country is to qualify for the entire amount. You can also pro-rate the time spent in country when it&#039;s less than a year. Those people who went over in August (for example), or leave early, do not qualify for the whole year, but they do qualify for the partial amount for the time they spent in-country during that tax year.  

I would suggest that you ask another tax accountant. Mine has pro-rated my taxes for 4 different contracts. I left in March of 2008 and did this for my recent return saving 90 days worth of income taxes. If you are in the Houston area, contact Stan Fortson.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
Are you trying to tell me I stayed over there longer than I had to? I&#039;ll call him. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Sparky’s Response:<br />
I am having to disagree with you here. I was told clearly by my tax man who specialized in out of country income that I must stay out of the US 330/365 consecutive days to maintain my tax free status. I had to come home 13 days early to take care of some business with my daughter. Took care if and headed to Canada to finish out my 13 days. I actually had them stamp my passport. I’d check on this. I think if they get fired and sent home their screwed. Any tax people here? </p>
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The 330/365 consecutive days out of country is to qualify for the entire amount. You can also pro-rate the time spent in country when it&#8217;s less than a year. Those people who went over in August (for example), or leave early, do not qualify for the whole year, but they do qualify for the partial amount for the time they spent in-country during that tax year.  </p>
<p>I would suggest that you ask another tax accountant. Mine has pro-rated my taxes for 4 different contracts. I left in March of 2008 and did this for my recent return saving 90 days worth of income taxes. If you are in the Houston area, contact Stan Fortson.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
Are you trying to tell me I stayed over there longer than I had to? I&#8217;ll call him. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Krash</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2349</link>
		<dc:creator>Krash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hats/lanyards on base makes sense to a point,(if the rules were properly enforced, but our complaint is that they were not consistent from base to base so you never knew if you were in compliance or not) but when you spend the majority of your working time outside of the wire, the hats/lanyards make you an even brighter/bigger target to aim at. 

Driving the blazing white fuel trucks with red stripes was a big enough target, but by making just the expats wear the hats/lanyards you then identified which trucks had expat drivers versus which trucks had TCN drivers, so that the insurgents knew exactly what trucks to hit.  The military (who was our client and ultimately our boss) told the drivers numerous times not to wear the hats/lanyards while on mission).  This caused an uproar with management trying to implement the hats/lanyards rule, to the point of having Safety personnel stationed at the gates taking pictures of the departing trucks to make sure you had your hat (which is extremely hard to see under the combat helmet) and lanyard on.  Then the military would stop the convoy outside the gate and tell us to take them off or conceal them.

There are many views to this issue and many diferent opinions on how is was enforced and the various comments reflect this.  There is not a set policy for enforcing rules while in country . . every camp manager interpreted them to fit their own agenda/purpose, as did every contractor that the rules directly affected their job performance.

As drivers it made us targets, as electricians and plumbers, my guess is that the dangling lanyard off of the neck posed a safety hazard, while trying to work with the hat on in tight spaces was difficult to say the least.  

Now as someone who spent their day inside a building, behind a desk/computer screen I don&#039;t see any potential safety hazards for wearing the hat/lanyard.  

If you had the hat/lanyard somewhere on your person, i.e. in your pocket, to provide proof of your contract company on request/demand, then why would you be terminated?? Is this not in compliance to have the hat/lanyard on??

Maybe someone in management should make an informed choice in how to apply this trivial issue.  .but then again we are dealing with management that doesn&#039;t give a damn!

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
A lot of people have the misconception that how things are at there Camp is how things are theater wide. It is sooooo not that way. Each camp is like working for another company! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hats/lanyards on base makes sense to a point,(if the rules were properly enforced, but our complaint is that they were not consistent from base to base so you never knew if you were in compliance or not) but when you spend the majority of your working time outside of the wire, the hats/lanyards make you an even brighter/bigger target to aim at. </p>
<p>Driving the blazing white fuel trucks with red stripes was a big enough target, but by making just the expats wear the hats/lanyards you then identified which trucks had expat drivers versus which trucks had TCN drivers, so that the insurgents knew exactly what trucks to hit.  The military (who was our client and ultimately our boss) told the drivers numerous times not to wear the hats/lanyards while on mission).  This caused an uproar with management trying to implement the hats/lanyards rule, to the point of having Safety personnel stationed at the gates taking pictures of the departing trucks to make sure you had your hat (which is extremely hard to see under the combat helmet) and lanyard on.  Then the military would stop the convoy outside the gate and tell us to take them off or conceal them.</p>
<p>There are many views to this issue and many diferent opinions on how is was enforced and the various comments reflect this.  There is not a set policy for enforcing rules while in country . . every camp manager interpreted them to fit their own agenda/purpose, as did every contractor that the rules directly affected their job performance.</p>
<p>As drivers it made us targets, as electricians and plumbers, my guess is that the dangling lanyard off of the neck posed a safety hazard, while trying to work with the hat on in tight spaces was difficult to say the least.  </p>
<p>Now as someone who spent their day inside a building, behind a desk/computer screen I don&#8217;t see any potential safety hazards for wearing the hat/lanyard.  </p>
<p>If you had the hat/lanyard somewhere on your person, i.e. in your pocket, to provide proof of your contract company on request/demand, then why would you be terminated?? Is this not in compliance to have the hat/lanyard on??</p>
<p>Maybe someone in management should make an informed choice in how to apply this trivial issue.  .but then again we are dealing with management that doesn&#8217;t give a damn!</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
A lot of people have the misconception that how things are at there Camp is how things are theater wide. It is sooooo not that way. Each camp is like working for another company!</p>
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		<title>By: Ksniper777</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2343</link>
		<dc:creator>Ksniper777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Sparky you must either be rush linbaugh or sean hannity.  Never see the good only dishes the dirt LOL.  If there is a policy in force then abide by it or go home very simple and very easy to do.  You may not like rules and regulations but some of us do.  We all have choices.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
I love rules. I insist on rules. But they must be consistent across the board. Not willy nilly. And I see the good. Let me tell you what the good it. The good it that KBR has some amazing employees. If they were allowed to do their jobs things would be a lot better. Management is the problem. Not the employees.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Sparky you must either be rush linbaugh or sean hannity.  Never see the good only dishes the dirt LOL.  If there is a policy in force then abide by it or go home very simple and very easy to do.  You may not like rules and regulations but some of us do.  We all have choices.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
I love rules. I insist on rules. But they must be consistent across the board. Not willy nilly. And I see the good. Let me tell you what the good it. The good it that KBR has some amazing employees. If they were allowed to do their jobs things would be a lot better. Management is the problem. Not the employees.</p>
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		<title>By: FEDUP</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2342</link>
		<dc:creator>FEDUP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, It&#039;s not something that has just come up recently.  From day one when that policy came out that is what has been told to us by our PM&#039;s, DPM&#039;s, Managers and Supervisors.  I don&#039;t know what base you were on or how other bases relay information but on Anaconda thats what was put out.  If they wanted to track us then they would issue out GPS systems to us not hats and lanyards.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
That&#039;s not what was put out at every site. Trust me. Don&#039;t give them any ideas. I&#039;m not sure the DoD would allow KBR to invoice for chips. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, It&#8217;s not something that has just come up recently.  From day one when that policy came out that is what has been told to us by our PM&#8217;s, DPM&#8217;s, Managers and Supervisors.  I don&#8217;t know what base you were on or how other bases relay information but on Anaconda thats what was put out.  If they wanted to track us then they would issue out GPS systems to us not hats and lanyards.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
That&#8217;s not what was put out at every site. Trust me. Don&#8217;t give them any ideas. I&#8217;m not sure the DoD would allow KBR to invoice for chips.</p>
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		<title>By: Ksniper777</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2331</link>
		<dc:creator>Ksniper777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a spin Ms Sparky that was the reasoning behind the hat and lanyard because when a civilian contractor does screw up KBR always got the blame.  Case in point we were accused of conducting BASH operations near the flight line MP&#039;s showed up at my place of work and ask had we been doing this and they also had the witness as well to indentify who was doing it.  I asked a simple question, were they wearing a hat and lanyard like i had on?  The witness said no, they were in a military uniform and the MP said thank you sir for your time it was the Air Force and they blame KBR.  See for a changed they looked stupid trying to again toss KBR under the bus.  Not sure if they spelled out the reason to you Ms Sparky but that was the main reason to cut back on the blame game.  Alot of people design there own hats as long as they have KBR on it they don&#039;t care.  Yes there are other contractors that get in trouble you just don&#039;t hear about because KBR is the target of everyone on base.  Admitted Ms Sparky KBR has it good points and bad but you just don&#039;t want to bring those up.  Have a good one folks :)

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
We had managers that would sit at the PX and watch for the red hat and lanyard. Take names. Even when the PX closed before we got off work. Even during lunch. So.....I still think the primary reason is for tracking their own employees. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a spin Ms Sparky that was the reasoning behind the hat and lanyard because when a civilian contractor does screw up KBR always got the blame.  Case in point we were accused of conducting BASH operations near the flight line MP&#8217;s showed up at my place of work and ask had we been doing this and they also had the witness as well to indentify who was doing it.  I asked a simple question, were they wearing a hat and lanyard like i had on?  The witness said no, they were in a military uniform and the MP said thank you sir for your time it was the Air Force and they blame KBR.  See for a changed they looked stupid trying to again toss KBR under the bus.  Not sure if they spelled out the reason to you Ms Sparky but that was the main reason to cut back on the blame game.  Alot of people design there own hats as long as they have KBR on it they don&#8217;t care.  Yes there are other contractors that get in trouble you just don&#8217;t hear about because KBR is the target of everyone on base.  Admitted Ms Sparky KBR has it good points and bad but you just don&#8217;t want to bring those up.  Have a good one folks <img src='http://mssparky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
We had managers that would sit at the PX and watch for the red hat and lanyard. Take names. Even when the PX closed before we got off work. Even during lunch. So&#8230;..I still think the primary reason is for tracking their own employees.</p>
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		<title>By: FEDUP</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2328</link>
		<dc:creator>FEDUP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose for wearing the hats and lanyards was to identify KBR employees from other civilian contractors that were on base.  The Military was always so quick to point the finger at KBR everytime a civilian caused a problem. Wheather it was a KBR employee or not. To eliminate that, the policy for the hats and lanyards were put into place.  Not such a big thing for the amount of money that they pay us.  Not necesarilly for tracking people but for identification purposes.  KBR didn&#039;t want to be blamed for what other contractors let their employees get away with.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Respnse:&lt;/strong&gt;
Interesting spin on things. I don&#039;t ever recall that information being relayed. Is that something they just came up with recently? Plus....you don&#039;t ever hear much about any other contractors employees in trouble...well except Blackwater. I&#039;m not saying it doesn&#039;t happen but why &quot;brand&quot; everyone for what one person is doing? I guess if KBR were above reproach it would be a different issue. But they aren&#039;t. I find it interesting they were able to procure hats and lanyards for everyone and yet they still couldn&#039;t get the proper tools and material. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose for wearing the hats and lanyards was to identify KBR employees from other civilian contractors that were on base.  The Military was always so quick to point the finger at KBR everytime a civilian caused a problem. Wheather it was a KBR employee or not. To eliminate that, the policy for the hats and lanyards were put into place.  Not such a big thing for the amount of money that they pay us.  Not necesarilly for tracking people but for identification purposes.  KBR didn&#8217;t want to be blamed for what other contractors let their employees get away with.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Respnse:</strong><br />
Interesting spin on things. I don&#8217;t ever recall that information being relayed. Is that something they just came up with recently? Plus&#8230;.you don&#8217;t ever hear much about any other contractors employees in trouble&#8230;well except Blackwater. I&#8217;m not saying it doesn&#8217;t happen but why &#8220;brand&#8221; everyone for what one person is doing? I guess if KBR were above reproach it would be a different issue. But they aren&#8217;t. I find it interesting they were able to procure hats and lanyards for everyone and yet they still couldn&#8217;t get the proper tools and material.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2313</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Sparky’s Response:
I find it so ironic…(not really) that now you can get fired for not wearing your hat and lanyard but when I was there the guy who assaulted me at work didn’t even get a right up or a day off. Things that make you go hmmm.
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If you were assaulted, file a civil claim against the indiviual.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
And get what? They guy was a drug addict. If KBR had handled it appropriately it would be done and over with. But oh...no, now I have an unresolved issue that I&#039;m still pissed about it. I don&#039;t think I am as angry with the guy as I am with the way KBR handled it (or didn&#039;t handle it). 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Sparky’s Response:<br />
I find it so ironic…(not really) that now you can get fired for not wearing your hat and lanyard but when I was there the guy who assaulted me at work didn’t even get a right up or a day off. Things that make you go hmmm.<br />
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<p>If you were assaulted, file a civil claim against the indiviual.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
And get what? They guy was a drug addict. If KBR had handled it appropriately it would be done and over with. But oh&#8230;no, now I have an unresolved issue that I&#8217;m still pissed about it. I don&#8217;t think I am as angry with the guy as I am with the way KBR handled it (or didn&#8217;t handle it).</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://mssparky.com/2009/04/kbr-says-youre-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-2312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharon said,on April 17th, 2009 at 12:41 pm ..In addition to the devastation of a job loss, especially now, when someone gets fired and returns home to the US, they will also get screwed, royally, as far as taxes are concerned. Income of up to 85,700 is TAX FREE, however, you must not be in the US for more than 30 days. So, by coming home, ALL the income is now taxable.
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WRONG! You pro-rate your taxes for the portion of the year spent in Iraq. To do that, divide $87,500 by 365. That is your pro-rate that you can deduct.

&lt;strong&gt;Ms Sparky&#039;s Response:&lt;/strong&gt;
I am having to disagree with you here. I was told clearly by my tax man who specialized in out of country income that I must stay out of the US 330/365 consecutive days to maintain my tax free status. I had to come home 13 days early to take care of some business with my daughter. Took care if and headed to Canada to finish out my 13 days. I actually had them stamp my passport. I&#039;d check on this. I think if they get fired and sent home their screwed. Any tax people here? 

You must not be in the US for more than 30 days to qualify for the entire amount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharon said,on April 17th, 2009 at 12:41 pm ..In addition to the devastation of a job loss, especially now, when someone gets fired and returns home to the US, they will also get screwed, royally, as far as taxes are concerned. Income of up to 85,700 is TAX FREE, however, you must not be in the US for more than 30 days. So, by coming home, ALL the income is now taxable.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>WRONG! You pro-rate your taxes for the portion of the year spent in Iraq. To do that, divide $87,500 by 365. That is your pro-rate that you can deduct.</p>
<p><strong>Ms Sparky&#8217;s Response:</strong><br />
I am having to disagree with you here. I was told clearly by my tax man who specialized in out of country income that I must stay out of the US 330/365 consecutive days to maintain my tax free status. I had to come home 13 days early to take care of some business with my daughter. Took care if and headed to Canada to finish out my 13 days. I actually had them stamp my passport. I&#8217;d check on this. I think if they get fired and sent home their screwed. Any tax people here? </p>
<p>You must not be in the US for more than 30 days to qualify for the entire amount.</p>
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