Last year I had to go to West Texas for some training. We were installing wind generators at a wind farm west of San Angelo out in the middle of nowhere. Frank was great and was driving me all over the site. I kept seeing these huts up on stilts. After awhile I had to ask him what they were. “Those are deer blinds” he said. I wasn’t really getting it so I asked him to explain. Frank told me that people pay to hunt in certain areas in Texas, it’s called a Deer Lease. To ensure that the hunters get their deer, the deer are fed in a certain location at a certain time near the deer stand. Then all the hunters have to do is park their rig, get in the deer stand, wait and shoot. Most of these deer are farm raised so it’s like shooting into a herd of cattle. I was stunned.
I grew up in a hunting family and was drug out against my will on hunts all the time. I can remember being woken up way before dawn and driving to the mountains. And then walking and walking and walking looking for deer, elk or whatever else we were hunting for. Sometimes you got one. Sometimes you didn’t. That was supposed to be the thrill of it.
This Texas hunt thing reminded me of the time I caught my ex-husband Bill baiting the pheasants in the back yard and then shooting them from the dining room window. I threw a freakin’ fit.
I am not a big proponent of hunting, but if you are going to hunt……HUNT! I don’t think baiting and waiting is hunting. Why don’t you just tie them to a post? I challenge all you big bad Texas deer hunters to come up to Washington and hunt. Let’s see if you can hang with the big boys….and girls.
The photo above is a permanently installed deer blind in Texas.
This is a photo of a deer feeder. It’s programmed to feed at specific times every day.
To all my Texas friends…..I love ya but this is ridiculous.
So…..comments anyone?
Ms Sparky
This makes me sad.
Me too!!! That’s why I wrote about it.
It disgusts me as well. I am a native Texan. I have an ex-brother in law that hunted this way. It is unbelievable. One man I knew of used to hunt like this as well and he was mean to the deer. He would taunt them and tease them. One day, about 10 years ago, he took his 8 year old son with him and was teasing the buck. The buck pinned the man to his truck killing him in front of his son. The deer pushed his horns into the man. I thought at the time it was payback for hunting this way. I am sorry, world. We, Texans have some bad and twisted stuff in our history. Really sad and absolutely disgusting. Wish I could change it myself. Maybe on another plane, there’s a place where deer put out feeders for hunters (not the real hunters, but the ones who sit in these things)…the men come and the deer go and eat the hunters. It’s payback in some karma sort of way. They have these stupid things on the tops of some jeeps. Yep, I’ve seen them. Really sad.
I call bullshit to your story about a person taunting a wild deer.
Every wild deer I’ve seen if they see you they are not standing around to be taunted!
Yep! This is OMG unbelievable. I hope you are right about the Karma thing. Although I don’t want to hunt myself, I’m not necessarily anti hunting. I just think it should be fair. And this is so not fair!!!
I have a friend that got a huge deer this way. I asked him if he really felt pride about getting a deer like this. He said no but wanted a big trouphy on his wall.I told him i would rather have a 4 pointer mounted on my wall that I had to actually hunt for than a huge boone a crocket that I just had to wait for feeding time to shoot and the next guy can do the same the next day. That is not hunting!Thats like calling scooping up trout in a bathtub with a net fishing.
Well in all honesty, though the feeders are up,, the blinds are occupied.. and for hours, it doesnt always mean the deer are going to show up for ” feeding time ” it doesnt exactly work that way..
I guess we better stop putting hay out for the cows to when we call them up.. I mean.. they are going to the sale barn .. or worse… to the meat house to become steaks on someones table.. you know where they bash them in the head with steel bars?
Really in the whole world.. there is alot more things to be concerned about.. not all that are fed are killed and not all that are killed are ” baited.
just sign me..
well fed in Texas.
I come from the Pacific Northwest where we actually hunt. You know…actually get out of the truck and track your prey. So baiting deer to us is no different than hitting it with you vehicle and then tying to the hood of your truck and claiming it as a kill. It’s pathetic.
Just the way we do things up here!
I am not an advocate of hunting animals in any way. My son-in-law went on a big hunt this last Saturday. When he returned he reported that he had not seen a single deer. This of course to him was a large disappointment. For me it made my day. My idea of deer hunting is to watch them in the wild and admire their beauty. Recently visited Cade’s Cove in Tennessee. The deer are plentiful there and in the middle of a national park. They are standing every where for all to admire. To me this is the way it should be. They are much more beautiful to look at alive than hanging as a trophy on someone’s wall.
We have a lot of elk and deer in Washington. I enjoy watching them in their natural environment. If I could just figure out how to keep them our of my roses that would be great!
I am a proud Pacific Northwest hunter. I get my deer and elk ALMOST every year. I have to ask those hunters in Texas if its hard to shoot from the lawn chairs at their feeding stations without spilling their beer.
Too funny. LMAO!! I can remember elk camp. We would head out early before the sun was up and walk and walk and track and track. We’d drag our butts back to camp dog tired! And low and behold what did we see…..elk tracks right through the middle of camp. Yep…God has a sense of humor!
I will also add, if someone did get their elk, they earned it.
Baiting…..It’s done in many more states than just Texas. Actually, it’s the norm over the greatest portion of the southwest US. And if allowed, it’d be done in your state too, by the majority I’d bet.
What some of you might not understand about Tx is that we are about 95% private land. What little public land we have is broken up into relatively smaller parcels scattered all over the state. Any of you who have traveled Tx extensively have seen that our terrain varies greatly as well. Anything from East Tx bottom land with Pine and Oak cover so thick you literally have to crawl through most of it. Then there’s the hill country, which boasts the most densely populated area of Whitetail in the country. This area is mostly Mesquite trees and Prickly Pear Cactus, mixed with Spanish and Live Oaks. On down to South Tx Brush country where the Mesquites, Junipers and other vegetation is so thick that you can’t walk or hardly even crawl through it, but get 10′ off the ground and you can see for miles. Then there’s west Tx and the Panhandle which is typically so open and flat that you can see nothing but agriculture all the way to the horizon.
But I digress. I dare any of you naysayers to come on down to Tx and put on a spot and stalk hunt on one of our Whitetails. If you can find a parcel of land large enough that will allow you to do such a thing. Surely there are a few that will allow this, so come on down and let me know how it works for ya!
Sure, I hunt over a food plot I made, even have a feeder. Not all my hunting is done this way though. When I want the big daddy, I go to hunting known trails to and from bedding areas, water, and food. I’ll readily admit that what we do down here is more “herd management” than hunting. At least those who do nothing but sit over feeders and food plots, myself included. But I will tell y’all this. I have never killed a mature buck under a feeder, or even feeding on a food plot. Those bucks typically know better than to expose themselves like that. They skirt the edges working the doe, and that’s where you hunt them.
To add, I have been on spot and stalk hunts for Elk. I thoroughly enjoy hunting that way. I’d prefer it if I could here at home. But the reality is, it just isn’t possible 99.9% of the time. I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind here. Y’all will think what you will. And that’s fine, more Tx for me. But at least have a few facts before you begin to bash someone for their actions. So should I just hang up my bow and rifles and give up all together? Or continue to enjoy the outdoors in a way which I am able? I know what I’m gonna do myself, regardless of what y’all say.
If y’all want to debate this on an open forum, come on and we’ll entertain any ideas you have that will make our hunting more “fair chase”.
Tx
This all reminds me of two stories….
First, my now deceased ex-husband (I had everything to do with the “ex” part, but nothing to do with the “deceased” part….much to my dismay) was sitting at the kitchen table one morning drinking coffee (I thought). I was off in another part of the house and all of a sudden I heard a KA-BOOM!! What the hell!! I had no idea what had just happened. I thought he has either shot himself or someone had come in and cheated me out of shooting him myself! I went to the kitchen and there he was sitting at the table, he had removed the screen from the kitchen window, baited the back yard with canned corn and was shooting pheasants right from the window. Hmmmm now I have to wonder if he wasn’t from Texas.
Second, my uncle had a good sized cattle ranch in Eastern Washington. Every winter he had to start hay feeding because of the snow. And every winter the deer and elk would come in and try to help themselves to the hay. The dogs did a pretty good job of keeping the deer and elk out of the field. I asked my Uncle one day why he didn’t just go out and shoot them. His response…”Where’s the sport in that!”
There is just nothing in my being that is going to make it acceptable to bait any animal so you can shoot it. Is this sport “hunting” or “killing”?
One could back to the pawnshop and buy a deer rack. You know, the one your wife said she donated the charity.
Do they make you untie them before you shoot them?
Like I said, if anyone wants to have an intelligent discussion, come on over and we’ll get all this out in the open. It’d certainly be better than making snide comments on a subject you obviously have no experience with. Personally, I could care less. I’m done here.
Most of them are farm raised? Really? If you don’t agree with the methods used, that’s your prerogative. But before you condemn the entire state and it’s hunting methods at least educate yourself. There are deer farms in Texas, but they don’t constitute enough of the State’s herd to even register. The brush country of Texas is different from many other areas where agriculture provides hunting opportunities. For that matter what is a food plot if not bait? Spot and stalk is also a much used technique in Texas, very much so in the area you were in West of San Angelo as a matter of fact. Hate all you want, but you have not taken the time to educate yourself enough for your opinion to be valid.
And I guess we will continue to disagree.
Disagree? You don’t agree that someone should consider educating themselves on a subject before passing judgment on it? Doesn’t that smack of narrow-mindedness?
Do not assume you have any idea about what I know or don’t know with regards to hunting and sportsmanship.
I don’t have to assume, you stated that you developed your opinion by riding around in a truck with “Frank” and gleaning your information about Texas hunting from that conversation. You further confirmed your lack of knowledge by stating “most of these deer are farm raised, so it’s like shooting into a herd of cattle”. That is patently false. I need make no assumptions with regards to your knowledge of Texas hunting, you said it all yourself. I also presume to have an idea as to your sense of fair play, again demonstrated by your outright dismissal of something you don’t understand. I would be happy to discuss with you different hunting methods that are regionally accepted, and why they are. Why some food sources are considered bait and others are not. I am very open-minded, and always willing to learn new things.
Well said JayinTexas!!! Ms. Spanky and her friends on her ought to just stay where there from!!
Name calling!! Dwight warned me about that. I haven’t been to the forum in a few, but I hear there’s a whole lot of that going on. “Ms Spanky” (yawn) that is so original and sooooo 12 years old! And you really need to use spell check!
I have been hunting nearly 50 years. I would only bait if I didn’t have a gun and I was starving. I guess then Ms Sparky would call it a Bait & Beat. LOL
I went to the forum listed above and other than a whole lot of name calling and them calling you a dude there isn’t much to justify baiting except there is not a lot of area to hunt and some guy is saying they will starve if they don’t shoot them so it like mercy killing.
We have poison oak and ivy, blackberries, mountains not hills that go straight up, timber rattlers 8′ long, western diamondbacks, mountain lions, bears, stupid hunters.
I would give up hunting before I would bait.
Yep…..I went and took a look. Too funny! I guess we need to count ourselves lucky that we live in the Pacific Northwest. We have our little problems , but we don’t have none of those freakin’ fire ants, hurricanes, alligators, wild pigs, tornadoes, George Bush or KBR like they have in Texas.
I hope you realize that all those things you listed you can find from Texas, to Florida, all the way up to Virginia (where I am). Sounds to me like you’re misinformed and have used this opportunity as a forum to vent your dislike for this region of the country. I think the lack of sunshine you guys have up in Washington is getting to you. Either way, I don’t like to openly discuss a topic unless I have a solid base of knowlege/backgroun; wouldn’t want to end up with my foot in my mouth!
I doubt there will be anything I can say that would change your opinion about how Texans hunt deer, hogs, or any other game, and care for our natural resources.
You make strong points about the superior ethics of sportsmen in the Pacific North West. Forget about the Roosevelt Elk taken from the back porches while feeding in the hay fields. Forget about the enormous numbers of Salmon netted in the Columbia river. Forget about the slow maturing sturgeon needlessly sacrificed as by-catch by the Washington commercial fishing fleet. Forget about the insane pollution pumped into the ocean, so much so that some of the largest oceanic dead zones in the worlds oceans are forming off your coast.
Thanks for shedding light on our ignorance and showing us how true sportsmen should treat our natural resources.
I’m not saying it’s not done, but I have never known anyone to shoot an elk from his back porch. I guess it’s possible and if he were feeding them to attract them I would be all over him as well.
The only people who can net salmon in the Columbia River are the Native Americans and it’s a right by treaty.
As for the sturgeon, it’s illegal to keep them under 3′ and over 6′ long.
I’m not sure I agree about oceanic dead zones. I would like to see some stats on that. But I will agree there is too much pollution in the Columbia River and it’s tributaries. I don’t eat fish out of the Columbia River.
Did I ever use the word ignorance in my post? I don’t think so.
For those of you that are unfamiliar with Texas and the way we hunt there are some things that you dont understand.
For one it isnt a case of anywhere in texas putting out a feeder, sitting in a stand for 30min and then BOOM you got a dead deer. In East Texas where I hunt I have never seen a deer at a feeder, there is too many acorns and other forms of food in the thick woods for them to eat.
Yes, I do still hunt in a stand most of the time because the woods are simply too thick and there isnt enough land to spot and stalk. The terrain in Texas just doesnt make it possible to spot and stalk in most of the state.
And as I said before just because you have a feeder in front of you doesnt mean you will see the big buck you are hunting. These are totally wild and smart animals, and the bigger the buck the smarter it is.
Now that is a reasonable comment! And absolutely no name calling.
Ms Sparky,
With all due respect it appears you know less about wildlife management in the Pacific North West than you do in Texas. In addition to the Indian tribes, there is a commercial fishery in Washington. http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/columbia_river_spring_chinook_update%20.pdf Thousands of sturgeon are lost to the commercial gill netters each year as by-catch. Sports fishing sturgeon keeper size is 38 or 41 and max of 54 inches. https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/erules/erule.jsp?id=716
The dead zones off the coast of the Pacific North West are well documented. Give it a google and check it out. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=30477
I’m sure you mean well, and I sincerely LOVE the Pacific North West. I routinely fish and hunt in your neck of the woods. And, yes, I do have a friend who shoots elk off his back porch, along with his many neighbors, right in your neck of the woods.
You cant argue with Google and I respect the fact that you backed up your claims with links. I am not a fisherman (woman) so I bow before you! My grandfather was an obsessive sturgeon fisherman and it used to be 3′ & 6′. But we have regressed from the original argument of “bait and wait”. At this rate of regression we will be arguing about health care or global warming before the night is over.
Now I know who is responsible for all of those horrible looking wind farms that are destroying the scenic beauty of my beloved home state.
I am dismayed every time I drive out to West Texas and see the miles and miles of “scenic” pollution that these awful wind farms have given us people out in the middle of “no where”.
Ms Sparky – “no where” is where you don’t live, but I do.
The West Texas landscape and native beauty is being destroyed more every month by outsiders like you who come and make a buck and then leave.
I was there for two weeks of training and it’s all my fault….well then I want my cut. $$ WE have the same thing going on I the Pacific Northwest! Wind turbines everywhere. Don’t you just hate those jerks who came up with all this clean energy!
This is not “clean” – this is all about politicians and their coporate partners (T Boone Pickens in the case of Texas) passing laws and making billions of dollars because of this unholy alliance between politicians and big business.
This “clean” energy BS is about as dirty as it gets.
Go online to the Dallas Morning News – there is a big story today about how they are going to string high voltage power lines across the Palo Duro Canyon in the Texas Panhandle. This canyon is the second larges canyon in the U.S. behind the Grand Canyon. But those damn wind mills have to have towers and power lines strung up all across the land to get the power to the cities.
I think one day we will wake up and see the carnage that these windmills are wracking on our scenic wild areas but it will be too late. Once again the politicians and Wall Street fat cats have duped the ignorant common working people.
And the dams, the coal fired, natural gas and nukes don’t need power lines? For the most part wind energy has a much less negative impact on the environment than the other energy sources except solar. I am a huge solar advocate!
Dams, power plants, etc. are not spread out over thousands of square miles, damaging and destroying the natural habitat on the GROUND like windmills and their crazy patchwork quilt like power lines that are needed to take their energy back to the cities!!!
NOTHING puts such a huge footprint on the earth as these fricking windmills and their wires going to everywhere!
They may not pollute the air, but they sure as hell pollute the GROUND where we humans acutally live.
I would love to have fished with your grandfather. Back in his day the Columbia was loaded w/ oversize sturgeon.
Re “bait and wait”…by most accounts the whitetail deer herd in Texas is healthy and at optimum levels. Texans are proud of our natural resource and carefully apply scientific management practices in managing the herd. Hunting from deer blinds in different parts of Texas is one of the preferred methods for taking game for numerous reasons.
My objective in “arguing”/informing/enlightening the topic was to show the end result is really what matters most. Texas is managing the resource with resounding success.
By contrast, the politics involved in the Pacific Northwest is doing great harm to our natural resources and instead of berating our harvest practices, it would be in all of our best interests if you would direct your passion to protecting and managing the fragile resources in your own backyard. Please consider joining http://ccapnw.org/home This organization is working to have the commercial netters banned from the Columbia where all others have failed. Believe it or not, it began in Texas and was successful in uniting outdoorspeople here to improve our fisheries.
Cheers
Maybe this is an example of where two very different cultures clash. Although I still find the thought of “baiting” repulsive, I will take into consideration Texas’ limited open spaces available for hunting and reconsider your “herd management/harvesting” argument.
Cheers
I just read your bio page. Admittedly, I should have began with that page. Irregardless of whether I can change your opinion about Texas, I respect where you’re coming from. Call up a guide named Dan Christopher aka QualityFishing guide service in Troutdale and have him take you on a sturgeon trip in the late spring early summer. You’ll have a good time and perhaps a few memories of your grandfather will be awakened and you’ll get to hangout below Beacon rock, one of my favorite places on earth.
Well you just raised up a few (dozen) notches on the “Ms Sparky” meter! Thanks
I travel 120 miles offshore for Tuna in Mexican Waters and come back with nothing half the time. We even enter the “Tuna Challenge” sponsored by the Make a Wish Foundation for dying children. So if you’re looking for big game, go on down to Presidio, Texas and hunt Big Horn Sheep. Nothing is considered a “Sport” until Vegas bets on it.
I am a proud native Texas, as well as a hunter. I have an idea…why don’t all u hippies sit there and talk crap about somthing you know nothing about because some lady named “ms sparky” told you it was that way. I don’t have the time to explain anything to yall (thats right, I said yall)so lets leave it at this… If you don’t like Texas or Texans stay the hell out of the area between the Red and the Rio Grande. We don’t need ya, won’t miss ya, and don’t give a damn what ya think!
OK then…bye bye now!
I grew up with a weapon in my hand thanks to an ex-marine. We hunted in Alaska, Oregon, California and other areas and live on the beach. I’m surrounded by Starbuck coffee drinking commie tree huggers who drink their double latte with foam. Texas isn’t as bad some think when you look at the news in Los Angeles with the minority gang issues. I’m real tired of those people. One basic rule thumb as the Native American’s applied. You must plan seven generations ahead and never kill more than you need to survive. Time to move on to more important issues.
You are right….I (we) are working on several big issues but this post has turned into a train wreck and I keep coming back to look. I can’t help it!
i have lived and hunted in texas all my life,I also hunt over FEEDERS and sit in one of those DEER BLINDS,but I have never shot a big farm raised buck from a feeder,all I see at feeders are hogs and young deer.If we TEXANS are so wrong why do we have the biggest and healthest deer herd in the country?We must be doing something right.I look at some of the deer that YA’LL spot and stalk and their so young they got dried milk on their lips(man I bet YOU GUYS are proud of that)So before you start cutting down Texans about something you know nothing about why don’t you come and shoot some of these farm raised deer are better yet club them since it is so easy.We have alot of ranches here that would love to take your money.
I don’t think you read all the words. I didn’t cut down Texans unless every Texan hunts deer this way. I dislike the deer hunting method. If they hunt this way in another state, I won’t like it there either! Don’t fill in my blanks, because there are none!
they do hunt this way in other states,you said you was not cutting down TEXAS and our way of hunting,I believe Your exact words are (why don,t you tie them to a post,i challenge you big bad Texas deer hunters to come up to washington and hunt ,lets see if you can hang with the big boys …an girls.)I challenge you to come to Texas in July and August while we are working on our HUTS on STILTS.Once again you and Frank don’t know what the hell you are talking about.Have you ever been to Texas and deer hunted?YES are NO. I see why you have a ex-husband,that poor man.
There is no doubt in my mind that you are somebodies ex….and for good reason. Shouldn’t you be working right about now?
Wow, Ms. Sparky, what an uneducated idiot!
I am with you Mike(PROUD NATIVE TEXAN)I am in the process of loading up my big four wheel drive pickup truck to head out to (pocket says;be mean and tease a buck,(ms sparky says; while I am tying it to a post,(deer master says;so i can shoot it from my lawn chair,or out of my hut on stilts before it spills my beer)typical know it all Yankee’s WE DON’T CARE HOW YOU DO UP NORTH…….P.S.Pocket by reading your post I will be willing to bet your gay,it sounded so manly the way you described about being mean and teasing those mean o deer,and the way you hope the deer get revenge.HERCULES,HERCULES
ms sparky the answer to your question is NO I am not someones ex,I have been happily married for 28 yrs.Can you say that?To the other part of your reply I am on vacation,so no I shouldn’t be working,I have 33yrs.in the same business YOUR in.So I guess that makes you and me both uneducated idiots according to JT. So why are you not working?If you are working does the company know what you are useing THEIR COMPANY COMPUTER for?I have been in power generation with the same company for enough time I can take the whole Texas deer season off and it starts the first of Nov.and ends the first of Jan.So one more time you are talking about something you know nothing about.By the way have you hunted Texas,you never answered my question.I have to get my truck loaded so I can go tease some deer.
I’m surprised you don’t have a PETA link on your site.
Typical self righteous BS.
Usually originating from someone who has “hunted” from the only tree line for miles, bordering a 4,000 acre wheat, milo, or corn field.
Or usually a Colorado snob type, who “hunts” in an area where the animals can be sneaked up on using gullies, ravines, um….mountains!!
I agree, there are some “Hunting” ranches in Texas that are anything but.
But I’d challenge any of you “fair chase”, “spot and stalk” holier-than-thous to come try that in my neck of the woods…
I’d be willing to bet a paycheck you leave empty handed every time. If….IF you survive the trip unscathed.
Glass houses
Ahhhh…
You’re from the Pacific North West.
nevermind
OK this has all been fun and entertaining for everyone at this end.
Although I have had a couple positive mature, adult conversations, for the most part….
I have been demonized, villainized and ostracized.
I have been call stupid, ignorant and an idiot.
And those are just the comments I approved. Many had to be deleted because they were just too nasty and abusive.
I suspect I am now considered the new anti-Christ for Deer Hunting in Texas.
Many of my long time readers are surprised I even engaged with you at all.
It’s Monday morning and I have bigger fish to fry so to speak. So I won’t have time to respond to each and every insult you throw my way.
But, continue to comment if you feel so inclined. Try to keep it clean and keep the insults limited to my level of intelligence, my parenting skills, my gender, my marital status and my trade, I do have a cat I suppose you could insult her…as if she would care. But…insulting my family is strictly OFF LIMITS!
And….by the way. Thanks for resurrecting this 1 1/2 year old post and increasing the traffic to MsSparky.com by a bunch!!
What a great shot in the arm to my end of the year site stats.
Merry Christmas to me and Merry Christmas to you!
Wow!!! I stay off the forum for a day or say and all you avid hunters have gone crazy with the posting. It is hard to believe that deer hunting riles you folks up more than KBR!!!! Just joking guys!!!!
I realize that every state has it’s own unique set of rules and regulations on hunting any kind of animal. Of course, everyone believes that his states regulations are the right ones. I don’t condone hunting. Animals are something that I enjoy watching in their natural setting.
In the area in which I live all types of grain are planted in hopes of enticing that large buck. Within 25 minutes of where I live there is a large parcel of land that has hundreds of fenced acres for deer hunting. The owners of this land have brought in a variety of deer from other parts of the country to breed larger deer. When you pass by the place you can see hundreds of not only deer but also buffalo grazing like cattle. People from all parts of the United States pay big money to come and hunt there. That is not really hunting to me. There is no sport in that. If you pay the money you pretty much leave there with a trophy. Big bucks guarantee big bucks. Is that how it was intended to be? It is legal but is it hunting?
In my opinion that is a canned hunt, and no, it’s not real hunting. It goes on everywhere and is big business…but that isn’t how most of the hunting is done in Texas
I am glad to hear that’s not how most hunting is done in Texas.
Very uneducated to say the least. So what you are saying is….you see using attractants as wrong. Hmmm….corn is corn is corn, whether its from a bag, a feeder, or growing on a stalk. Its an attractant. Same goes with scents. Tell me your local walmart in Washington doesnt sell doe pee? Or buck lures? They do, and in fact i would say almost all of your hunters have bought some and tried it before. If you want to argue the ethics of corn, then argue the ethics of all attractants. And the truth is, Texas doesnt have the soil to grow healthy food plots in most of the state. so whether you plant this plot, or throw it from a feeder, you do it to attract, and to help grow bigger healthier deer.
Its also about herd management. Texas has the largest whitetail population of any other state. If a certain number are not taken, these animals starve to death from competetion for food sources. Fact is, deer feeders help improve the health and quality of the herd.
If using feeders was legal where you live, Ill bet my every dollar the majority of hunters using private land would use them. Baiting on public land is not allowed here in Texas either.
I am from and currently live and hunt in Texas….I will do a trade hunt with anybody that wants to REALLY educate them selves on Texas Hunting. I also hunt in Oklahoma, Illinios, Indianna, Alaska, and Missouri. I use a bow, and I invite anyone to come take a challenge if they say this is “easy’.
Ms Sparky – Why in the hell are you wasting your time in this insane tit for tat over deer hunting in Texas? This is a waste of your time.
It’s like trying to teach a pig to sing. It frustrates you and pisses off the pig. I’d say you done pissed off the pig!!
If you’re done with your fun….you have dragon’s to slay. There are people at Dyncorp in Afghanistan who could use your help getting paid! And the list goes on and on.
Stay focused and don’t let these petty distractions occupy your time. In the big scheme of things….deer hunting is nothing.
with all due respect to you,you said leave my family out of if it,I believe you opened that door,your exact words are (there is no doubt in my mind your somebodies ex…and for good reason shouldn’t you be working)ms sparky if you thank for one minute you are going to talk a bunch of crap to Texans and not get it thrown back ,you have a lot to learn.The reply you just sent me about being called ever name in the book ,does the shoe fit?You said thanks for resurrecting a 1 1/2 year old post,i believe that was done on Nov.23,2009 at8:53 p.m.,and you replied to a lot of post before me,so don’t blame me.O, I see now it is somebody Else’s fault not yours.I am really trying to be respectful but it is hard when you have criticized Texans and our ways (your reply on Nov.24,2009 at7:47 a.m.,Dec.20,2009 8:03p.m.just a couple)I believe you owe Texas,an Texans a apology on comments you didn’t know anything about.what are you hours at work?Your replies are all day long,so you are not doing to much company work.YA’LL have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS.
My comment was a general one to EVERYONE not just you. Are you are narcissist? The original post was published June 1, 2008. It says so right under the title. Those are comments and responses to comments. Blogs are a little different than forums. I guess you aren’t a blogger.
are you a hypocrite?you sure talk a lot of b.s.,thought you had bigger fish to fry?
I’ll add that to the list.
What about those of us who hunt for food and not for a trophy? Is it so wrong that we want to increase our chances of putting food in the freezer? Not everyone is a trophy hunter, and not every Texan baits. But even if they do they have their reasons, just as you have yours for not. I don’t know many people who have kill big bucks under a feeder. It’s not as easy as you think and I encourage you to come to Texas and give it a shot! I have hunted all season with a bow and have yet to get a shot at a trophy buck, much less seen one. In fact, I haven’t taken a deer in four years, three of those years I hunted with a rifle. Easy… I beg to differ.
I encourage you to look up your facts before you post such ignorance based on heresay and heresay only….
OMG!! The “food in the freezer” justification! I was wondering when that was going to show up. You are more likely to put food in the freezer and it’s far more economical if you just go to the Piggly Wiggly, WinDixie or Sam’s Club. I call BS on that justification!
Deer meat is healthier for you than any meat you could ever buy at a grocery store! If you don’t believe that there are people who hunt for food and not trophies you are seriously mistaken…. I’m not saying there aren’t people who hunt purely for trophies, because there are. However, there are many hunters who hunt for food and not for trophy. I recall a recent episode of Jim Shockey’s hunting show where his father and father-in-law have a competition on who could take the biggest deer (over a food plot). One took a nice trophy deer the other took a huge bodied deer with a rack that left MUCH to be desired. But to each of those men they were a winner. One for a trophy and the other for the meat…
By the way I suggest you watch Ted Nugent’s Spirit of the Wild on OLN or the Outdoor Channel… You will like that show…
The name calling is uncalled for! It’s embarrassing to see so called hunters bash you for your article,which is your opinion.
I do call BS on one post because there is no way a wild deer will stand there and allow itself to be taunted as described.
In Texas there is very little public hunting land compared to privately owned land, 98% private and 2% public…so if we don’t own a part of this Great State then we have to lease a piece to hunt. The deer here are not pen raised as one would raise cattle.
There is a lot of misinformation that is being passed around to people that do not hunt or who do not hunt in Texas about Texas hunting. If anyone wants true facts then they should contact someone that knows them.
There are many methods of hunting game across the US. In Texas the post popular is using a blind and feeder. Texas has many hunters, but it also caters to just as many out of state hunters that are from all over the us were this method is not allowed.
There are no guarantees that hunting from a elevated platform (hunting blind) with a food source (feeder) 100 yards away is going to produce a deer for someone to shoot. In fact many people walk away with no deer at all.
Getting elevated is a key to locating game. There is no difference in sitting on the side of a mountain glassing the canyon below watching deer eating a natural food source. Many folks sit in a ladder stand against a large tree watching over a corn filed, some sit in ground blinds and tower blinds over a corn feeder and there is no guarantee they (deer)will come to a feeder.
I have been successful using the so called real methods or spot and stalk or still hunting with a archery equipment, so as far as your comment “I challenge all you big bad Texas deer hunters to come up to Washington and hunt. Let’s see if you can hang with the big boys….and girls.”
I bet I will see more game and ever get a shot at one before your so called Big Boys and Girls…if we do this it must be done with drawn archery equipment only (that means a compound or traditional bow and arrow [no crossbows]) NO Guns! Now that would be real hunting, huh?
Donnie I agree with you on the name calling,but when you get on the Internet and start criticizing us and challenging us to hunt and do things the way people do in the north it is no longer your opinion ,your just out right criticizing our ways.If you do not like the way we hunt THEN DON’T HUNT TEXAS,it is very simple.Like I stated earlier we don’t care how you do it up north.I asked ms sparky if she had hunted Texas and she refuses to answer the question,so I am taking it as she is criticizing us for something she has never done and knows nothing about,she came for two weeks of training and now she is a Texas deer hunting expert because Frank told her how it is done here.I sure hope Frank didn’t tell her we eat sh.t sandwiches for lunch,God only knows what she believe then.
I have been thinking about this and my curiosity has been aroused. I have hunted many different areas of the great country, but never the PNW, so I want to know the methods that are used up there. I am assuming since you are so against hunting a food source that food plots and agriculture are out. Do you hunt water sources? Do you call? Drives? Strictly spot and stalk? Some combination? Most of the Elk hunting I have done involved a combination of calling and spot and stalk, and you are right, I have never killed an elk that wasn’t work, nor have I talked to anyone that has ever killed a wild elk that didn’t think it was work…but fun work. Enlighten me please, I would truly like to know what in your mind constitutes “real” hunting.
In Washington Elk hunting is primarily rugged mountain hunting in the Cascades, the North Cascades and the Coast Mountain ranges. The elk stay at a relatively high altitude until the snow starts to fall and their food source gets covered, then they start down the mountains. If there is no snow fall before elk season the likelihood of getting one is slimmer. Most people have their favorite spots to set up elk camp. Normally someone goes up and tries to spot them before hunting season starts. Then you hike out and find them. You hope you find one that is located somewhere you can actually pack it out. If you can’t pack it out, you don’t take the shot.
So a lot of spot and stalk, with probably some calling thrown in. That’s actually very similar to a technique in common use in Texas called rattling, which involves active specialized calling with location changes in between. Actually one of my favorite ways to hunt. I’ve never shot an elk where I couldn’t pack it out, I have however shot an elk where I had to pack him out 1 quarter at a time.
What you need to understand is that you painted hunting in Texas with a very broad brush, and you used the wrong colors. There are a lot of us in Texas that take hunting, and the management of our natural resources very seriously, and as a state we are pretty successful at it. Do I hunt out of a stand over a feeder? You bet. We work with a biologist to closely manage the deer population on our ranch so that the forage available to them in even the worst years is sufficient for their survival, and that involves quite a bit of herd thinning every year. The most efficient way for me to kill the number of doe that I have to kill every year is for me to stand hunt. That isn’t the only way I hunt, as I feel there are other methods that increase the likelihood of my having an opportunity for a mature buck. So you see, it is hunting, but it’s also herd management. If you have any questions about some of the things we do, you should ask…it might surprise you how much thought and work go into managing a deer herd.
I have read all of the comments from above and probably will not come back to check any replies to my comment. I have lived in Texas all my life and have hunted in many states. It makes no difference where you hunt there is some form of commercial or personal baiting that takes place. Food plots corn,wheat,soybean fields that are left for the animals to consume and the hunters to hunt over. Wisconsin left corn in the field Illinois left soybean in the pasture Colorado leaves hay in the vallies. Idaho leaves hay and corn in the pastures and have blinds setup around the edges. Oregon leaves wheat in the field and has tree stands setup around the edges. This is all a form of baiting and we throw it out of a feeder. Texas has the best management program in place than most ever state in the union. I do not know why everyone has to be so conensending about the methods of hunting. If you eat what you kill you are a hunter if you are hunting for horns only then you are not a hunter IMO, my freezer is full and my family is being fed with what god gave us all to enjoy wether you hunt them or take pictures of them. Enjoy your hunting and the out doors.
From a hunter who loves the outdoors. God Bless you.
Dear Ms. Sparky,
Although I don’t agree with your statement. I respect it. That’s one of the greatest aspects of being an American, is being ABLE to make a statement. Here in Texas, we love our hunting. We love to get our friends and families involved in hunting. The fat that we hunt over bait, really isn’t different to hunting in other areas of the country. Some areas hunt over grain filds, Bait, some areas, they hunt over water, bait. Some areas hunt when the Does are in heat. Bait.
I can assure you, hunting a feeder isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. I wish you would come to Texas and hunt with myself of my wife. I would really welcome you to come. If you are able to hunt with us please email me and we can make arrangements.
For me hunting is not about the kill. it’s about spending QUALITY time with family and friends in the woods. It doesn’t matter how you do it, as long as you do it. I say if it’s legal, go for it.
Thank you for your time, and again, please email and give us the chance to change your opinion properly. If not Please keep your missinformed opinions to your self. You obviously know nothing of what you are speaking about. I also would like to show you some pics of why “spot and stalk hunting” is not so popular here. A Rattlesnake bite can be a very bad thing, to an adult or a child.
You were do fine until this:
“If not Please keep your missinformed opinions to your self. You obviously know nothing of what you are speaking about.”
You came here. Your forums linked to MsSpark.com This is MY blog and I can and will say whatever I want about whatever I chose. If YOU don’t like it…then YOU don’t have to come here. I didn’t exactly hi-jack your computer….just use that “back arrow” and get on out!
ms sparky the man was very polite and I felt did a very good job of explaining, an inviting you down for a hunt so maybe you could better understand,guess it wasn’t what you wanted to hear
me too F you
So you say youre a hunter. You enjoy spot and stalk. the thrill of climbing mountains and glassing is your cup of tea. Very good. At least you are outdoors and enjoying nature to its fullest, as our forefathers would have wanted it. The biggest issue that most have is disagreeing that the other ways of hunting are just as good or effective as yours, therefore it shouldnt be allowed. Who cares? If you want to continue to hunt, fish, or even have a 2A, you need to get over your dislikes of whatever fashion other people use to take their “quarry” and stand united, or you will lose that right because the animal rights activist has a very loud, very strong, and very rich voice capable of snuffing your love of hunting out unless we quit arguing and stand against them, no matter WHAT we use to hunt.
While the argument of “if we dont kill them, they will starve” is a somewhat true, mother nature has the means, and the heart, to do so whether we help or not. CWD is just a prevelant in any state as the next, and mass killoffs are just as big a part of their numbers controls as a bullet, or arrow, or bolt, whether in a plains state, mountain range, or deserts of far west Texas.
Quit your belly aching, hold your nose and stand beside your fellow hunter to keep YOUR right to hunt along with his.
Are you guys really going to use the excuse that you are hunting the deer as your food source?? Yes the deer meat taste good and is better for you but are you really going to say that is why you do it?? How many time have I heard that one?? At least a million. Way back when that was the reason why deer were hunted but not today. It is for the sheer thrill of the kill and we all know it. I wish that I had kept a letter to the editor that was posted in our local newspaper a couple weeks ago. It was concerning the dumping of deer carcasses and hides on a public road. A lot of the carcasses had only had the horns, tenderloins and hams removed leaving the rest to rot by the side of the road. That is a waste not to mention a health problem. If someone out there is really hunting to provide for their family then go for it. There is an old saying about opinions. You know they as like a**holes and everyone has one. That is what makes the world go round. That is part of the reason there is a forum. We get to voice our opinions whether they are right or wrong.
I hope everyone has merry, happy and safe Christmas and New Year.
Wether you want to believe it or not, I (and many others) hunt for the meat.The horns are only a plus. I would take a doe or a mature buck with small horns just as quick as I would take a nice buck. I would never kill a game animal without the intentions of consumption….
The animals you are speaking of I bet were killed by poachers, no ethical deer hunter would dump a carcass on the side of the road and take only the horns….
For your information my family does not buy any meat. We eat what we kill. Deer, hogs, rabbits, and lots of other animals. Just because you buy meat, does not mean everyone does. Wow, shows many people do not have an open mind. There is a world outside the city, you should try to explore it.
helo,
For your information I do not live in the city. I am a farm born and farm raised Louisiana girl. Only been to the big city on a holiday or two just like all country girls. I am not downing you in any way. I just don’t like hunting. By the way, I have been to the woods on occassion hunting with my father. He killed a deer once while I was there, I cried and cried and did not go anymore. If you want to hunt get after it.
I wouldn’t waste to much energy trying to convince some of these guys the “earth is round”. They are just too busy name calling and pounding on their chest and grabbing their crotch! Some of them didn’t fall far from the trees I suspect.
Please note I said some. Then there are some who have been quite decent.
I eat what I kill. I also kill more than I could ever possibly eat in the course of herd management, and all that meat goes to organizations like Hunters for the Hungry, and church pantries, and needy families that I have made contact with over the years. Some of whom I can promise you would not have a freezer full of any kind of meat but for what we give them.
It’s funny to see all of the complaining about the way we hunt in Texas.. Sounds like you envy us?? I have lived all over the US being a former Marine and leme tell you there is NOT ONE state that doesn’t bait wildlife.. If you own a hunting outfit you bait it’s reality!!! As a matter of fact I hunted in Washington State for bear in 2007 and I was in a tree stand hunting over a 55 gal barrel full of table scraps sounds like baiting to me? I’m not gonna drag this out and try and justify why we hunt the way we do.. I will be hunting over a feeder this weekend heck I may even throw out a lil “come er deer” who knows. When it’s all said and done you still have to give thanks to Texas cuz we could be the United States Of Mexico!!!!TEXAS ROCKS!!!! gotta go, Oh and incase Yall wanna know my feeder goes off at 4:30 so I gotta go get in the blind they show up around 5.. Hunting feeders is SWEET!!
You are either a liar or a criminal because it’s illegal to bait bear in Washington. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.15.245 I suppose you used dogs too!
Look I didn’t attack you in my last post however you opened the gate!! Liar?? Not on you life The outfitters can get a state permit to bait.. Criminal that’s harsh for someone who defended YOUR freedom for 8 years lady.. Hunt with dogs that’s funny!! Wait do you have one I can use?? You probably sit behind your desk all day long thinking of ways you can get attention and bashing Texas Hunting is just another way for you to get you rocks off… I’m sure all of the hunters from Washington that travel to Texas to hunt our feeders for $5000 a pop appreciate you.. be sure to tell them thanks for te revenue!!
They CAN NOT! Just to verify I called the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife. There are NO circumstances at all NONE NADA ZIP ZILCH where is legal to bait a bear in Washington State. No special permits, nothing.
Did I forget to mention they asked why I wanted to know.
Game Wardens are funny that way…LOL
Did I also forget to mention that I told him about Smackindoes comment and he went straight this post while we were still on the phone.
I am just getting so forget lately. Must be the Holidays! LOL
Smackindoes, sounds like Ms Sparky doesn’t even now the hunting laws in her own state. Seems to me like she ought to learn the hunting ways of her own state before she starts bashing are ways.
Thank you for serving our country I am truly grateful.
Just wanted verify the laws hadn’t changed before I took the hard stand. Since I don’t eat bear, I don’t bear hunt.
Sounds to me like you don’t hunt at all and all you want is some attention.. The fact is you’re Jealous of the way we hunt.. and if you weren’t you wouldn’t be so pi$$y about it.. Look you wanna sick your GW on me cool.. I’ll bring down some of your Bear outfitters with me.. Be careful what you wish for sweetie I have pictures.. This is my last post because now I feel like you’re looking for attention from me.. I will miss you though!!!
Ms Sparky, perhaps if you could ship over several Flying Pie pizzas (Greasiest and meatiest pizza known to mankind) located on Stark St and a few cases of Black Butte Porter (Excellent dark beer) these normally well mannered Texans, whose mothers raised them better than to treat lady folk this way, would have their mouths full and they’d stop the name calling. Next time you’re in Texas look me up and I’ll treat you to some real BBQ, which sadly Portland doesn’t have.
Who knows? I may even find you a deer blind to hunt out of:)
Welcome back.They need their mouths full of soap is what they need! You are a true Texas gentleman and I may just take you up on that offer. Merry Christmas!
hof, in Texas we treat ladies like a lady when they act like a lady.No offence but were you born and raised in Texas?Because if you were you would know better,you don’t throw rocks when you live in a glass house.
Yes Jim, I’m a native Texas, born and raised. Of course, we didn’t have too many glass houses in West Texas. The sandstorms sifted through the storm windows…:)
And, if speaking their mind makes them un-lady like, you’d be really blown away by the womenfolk in my family. That’s why us guys are on the internet talking about hunting and fishing…we can’t get a word in edge wise around home.
HOF,I also have womanfolk in my family that can curse an talk sh.t with the best of them,but we treat you the same way you treat people.Were I come from there is a difference between your opinion an flat out criticizing ,being a native Texan you should understand,also the womanfolk an kid’s in our family hunt with us an go an help,the one’s that don’t hunt, an don’t like it, stay home an do what they enjoy,they don’t get on the internet an talk crap about people when they have never done it and do not know what they are talking about.MS Sparky ought to be able to relate to this if she is such a good union strong person,I also am a 35 yr.I.B.E.W. member an when you talk sh.t an criticize my home an way of life I also will speak my mind,don’t mean to offend you are anybody.
I dont believe for one minute that you dont mean to offend. I believe thats all you mean.
And what does the IBEW and being union have to do with baiting deer or defending Texas.
Jim, the gals in my family don’t curse, for the most part.:) I’m speaking to the fact they have zero problemo telling any us menfolk what they think and where we can get off. Trust me, I’m grateful for small favors that they haven’t decided to track me so they defend the cute little bambis. In all sincerity, it wasn’t until my youngest had his first deer mounted that I was allowed to hang that awesome trophy on the wall inside the house. Though my wife is my bestest fishing buddy she absolutely refuses to go hunting. My mother feeds deer off her backyard around the Salado area and has had a 12 point coming through this year. I’d be willing to mow her lawn for a whole summer if she’d let me take it, but there’s no way she’d let me shoot one of her beautiful deer. Keep in mind I’m the one who started throwing corn out back to bring the deer in. I don’t know of a more Texan woman than my dear old Mom. She was raised in a home w/ a dirt floor in the Merkel area. Even with that, she won’t let me or her grandsons take the magnificent buck hiding in her back yard.
All this said, my gals do support their guys going out and hunting…this generally means a girls weekend shopping so it costs me twice…but if you were to ask them if they’d like to come along, you’d have better luck convincing MsSparky that hunting over baited areas is a good thing.
Good Hunting and have a very Merry Christmas
jim-I have been kind of watching and would venture a guess that Ms. Sparky is pretty much just ignoring you. She must have written you off as insignificant.
You can’t throw a much bigger rock than that!
Jake ,you think……it’s hard to face the truth sometimes.I need to get her address so I can send her her very own DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS bumper sticker.
Jake ,read” Meet MS Sparky “and she states she has been a IBEW member since 79,and her work history etc.She also was the first female journeyman so I know she caught some hell working around all men.My point is when you p.ss off union people they usually voice their opinion,and she should be able to relate,you did know she was member didn’t you?You said you have been reading along,did I say one thing that is not TRUE?Did you read one thing from any Texans that was not true?Everything I said I can back up,how about her?I am sure glad you let me know she has cut me off,LOOKS LIKE SHE CUT ALL THE TEXANS OFF,she has gotten quit,like I said earlier it is hard to face the truth sometimes,and when you get your butt handed to you the first thing you do is run when you can not back up one thing you have said.Jake if I offend you ,well GOOD.DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS,BITCH
Anyone else think that was uncalled for and over the line? What’s with the name calling! I had to block Jim.
Yes ma’am, that is over the line. I may disagree with you vehemently, but busting out with the B word is over the line. I don’t know Jim, but I’m hoping his emotions just got the best of him. I’m sorry he went below the belt. Now let the debate continue in an adult fashion, but not an R rated one.
Yes I am IBEW and yes I knew she was IBEW which has nothing to do with this blog post. So why you keep bringing it up eludes me.
What does concern me is after claiming to know Debbie was IBEW you still called an IBEW sister a B*tch in a public forum.
As far as I am concerned you are an embarrassment not only to the IBEW but to Texas as well.
Good read entertaining. I have nothing to add that hasn’t already been said except that I agree with the Texas hunters. LOL.
LMAO!! Damn I go to work and see what happens. Ms Sparky has pissed off a whole state of gun totin’ Texans. ha ha ha
Someone needs to call Jeff Foxworthy, there’s a lot of good material he could use.
He hunts in Texas
Just goes to show how ignorant animal-rightists are in the ways of everything that they can’t see through their blinders. If you think baiting-and-waiting is as easy as 1,2,3 you’re really as dumb as this article makes you sound. Get a life. Most importantly though, get your fat ass out of TX as fast as you can. The last thing we need is more bleeding heart queers trying to shove their damn agendas down out throats.
I have also lived in Texas all my life and a Veteran of the Persian Gulf War. I was in the United States Navy on the USS Missouri. There are some individuals out there that would say true War Veterans are the ones that had to fight on land with bullets flying over their heads while they shot back. Had to live in the sandy conditions, sleeping in ditches with one eye open and one eye shut, not knowing when the next attack was going to occur. Eating out of a sealed pack of dehydrated food. You had a bed to sleep in, a hot shower at night, and 3 hot meals a day. I am also a Disabled Veteran. There are individuals out there would say you have all your limbs, vision, and hearing you are not truely disabled. There are individuals say that 8 point you shot is not a trophy it only scored 100 point. There are individuals out there that say you are not a hunter because you get in a stand and wait for a deer to come in and eat. I would ask for these individuals not juge us until you know the facts. I love hunting and fishing along with alot of other individuals with disabilities and if it were not for stands and feeders, these individuals would be limited at doing something they love. Everyone is ignorant on all kinds of issues and it is not a bad thing. People just don’t know how things are operated, worked, or have the experience. We see things and then make a judgemental comment whether it is bad or good, without knowing the details. Hunters are different in every state with the way laws are written. These laws are written for a purpose, and we can agee or disagree but will have to follow the law. Since ya’ll have a mind set on the way we hunt, I would like you to take a hunting trip, from the one’s that were offered and then make a judgement on that hunt and where it was located. I am fortunate that my mother in law has 150 acres for me to hunt. There is not alot of area’s that I can stalk, and with my bad back and knee probably would not last long. I am just glad to be able to get out in the woods to hunt, there is alot of individuals that would give anything to sit in a stand and shoot a deer.
Personally, I feel if you are a wounded veteran you should be able to hunt however you want. Thanks for serving.
Thank you for your service to our Country.
Thanks for your service!
I agree with just about every Texas hunter on here and I have to say that Ms. Sparky is a liberal Blogger looking for attention.
I spent three years in Iraq working for KBR, got injured and been fighting for benefits ever since. Ms. Sparky would rather be loved and adored by the liberal left than give help to the injured (and deserving!)
By the way, I am sitting on a 150 acre ranch that has been hunted using the techniques that Ms. Sparky so flippantly dismisses (I have not taken a deer since coming home injured) and without the thinning of the heard these animals would be unhealthy and prone to diseases that are prevalent in other states:
http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/10/29/the-spread-of-cwd-whitetail-deer/#more-1353
Ms. Sparky and her liberal friends would rather dilly dally about how their opinion is the most important (its my blog and I’ll write what I want!) than participate in a healthy debate. They are the FIRST to cry FOUL! if someone calls them a name, but more often than not it was well deserved because of their dismissive attitudes!
Keep up the good work hunters on calling a liberal fish what she really is!
You didn’t read “Meet Ms Sparky”. You didn’t read the categories on the left. You just jumped right on the trash Ms Sparky train and packed up with the other wolves. I fight for injured KBR employees and other contractors and soldiers like you every day. I’m sorry you were injured and I appreciate your supporting our troops.
You are totally off track with your comment. Ms. Sparky’s is all about helping and fighting for the guys that have been hurt and killed serving in the military and while supporting the military. Obviously you did not read anything else on this forum other than the Texas-Deer hunting post. You might want to go back and do a little reading about the other things on this forum. If you take the time you will find posts on here concerning – needless deaths of service members and workers, illnesses due to being exposed to toxic fumes from burn pits, rapes that have occurred, lawsuits that have been filed by victims and their families, LOGCAP III TO IV transition information, fruad, abuse, waste, and the list goes on and on. You never read any of that did you??? You only took the time to jump at the chance to bash someone about deer hunting practices!!!!! You should be thanking Ms. Sparky for her efforts to help people like yourself. After you do a little reading I am sure you will find an apology is in order.
Well said, Ex-KBR Wife.